Well after talking with Seifer he says that it is a drop and we think that it is most likely from an SG but might also be a drop from an SF. He posted a picture of him talking to Meiun in June 2009 about it and said it's been a drop since then but extremely rare. But if it was a Tournament weapon and Fog won why would it be a drop if Tourny items are suppose to be unique. I'd like to know if it really is and if someone confirms we can do mass desert hunts!
Discuss people.
It is a drop. Danimal said it was, and Seifer said it was. Seifer even posted proof in the In-game shots section, but for some reason it was immediately removed. It's the rarest drop in-game, I would approximate it at a 1/100,000 drop chance, the same as Great Sword from Big Blue Blob, or possibly 1/1,000,000. Regardless, the drop rate is so ridiculously low hunts will yield nothing, but if it can pump more life into SG hunting, I'm all for it.
[/thread]
Maybe we should raise the drop rate of weapons from the SG. I rarely even see it drop the great sword, opposed to fedora and gb(most common hat being fedora). Slasher is already rare enough, deluxe and SG wise, and LSS just enters the category of too rare to be true... for now.
Quote from: Ceroblitz on November 22, 2010, 09:55:16 PM
Maybe we should raise the drop rate of weapons from the SG. I rarely even see it drop the great sword, opposed to fedora and gb(most common hat being fedora). Slasher is already rare enough, deluxe and SG wise, and LSS just enters the category of too rare to be true... for now.
Agreed. I'd just like a general drop rate boost for all items, to tell you the truth. But SG is my main concern.
Um, how many seperate topics are we gonna make about items being rigged and possible to obtain and stuff? Why not just make one topic called "Discussion of items"?
Quote from: Mystery on November 22, 2010, 09:52:14 PM
It is a drop. Danimal said it was, and Seifer said it was. Seifer even posted proof in the In-game shots section, but for some reason it was immediately removed. It's the rarest drop in-game, I would approximate it at a 1/100,000 drop chance, the same as it was once was to get a Great Sword from Big Blue Blob, or possibly 1/1,000,000. Regardless, the drop rate is so ridiculously low hunts will yield nothing, but if it can pump more life into SG hunting, I'm all for it.
[/thread]
fixed. bbb's dont stops gs any more.
Just nitpicking but I do agree. I think it does drop from sg and is super rare. But i could be wrong.
Because it would be swamped and serious discussion would be impossible as there are over 40 items in the game and someone has a unique complaint about each one. Discussion of any one topic would be too unfocused and would not accomplish or conclude anything.
Quote from: Jackabomb on November 22, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
Because it would be swamped and serious discussion would be impossible as there are over 40 items in the game and someone has a unique complaint about each one. Discussion of any one topic would be too unfocused and would not accomplish or conclude anything.
I would argue that that argument could be applied to this forum section. Or in other words that just moving the problem to another place.
Quote from: ARTgames on November 22, 2010, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Jackabomb on November 22, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
Because it would be swamped and serious discussion would be impossible as there are over 40 items in the game and someone has a unique complaint about each one. Discussion of any one topic would be too unfocused and would not accomplish or conclude anything.
I would argue that that argument could be applied to this forum section. Or in other words that just moving the problem to another place.
Except you have separate topics divided onto separate matters, and this isn't a 500,000 member forum, so you don't have 20 active topics a day on Suggestions, then 20 new ones the next day.
I think the spawn rates of everything should go up. If ever there's a hunt, the monsters don't spawn fast enough. Especially at mountain/bandits, sometimes at Temple. Hunts at Wall used to drain the spawns, but no one goes there anymore. Up the max number of spawns too...
~Aqua
Quote from: Mystery on November 22, 2010, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on November 22, 2010, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Jackabomb on November 22, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
Because it would be swamped and serious discussion would be impossible as there are over 40 items in the game and someone has a unique complaint about each one. Discussion of any one topic would be too unfocused and would not accomplish or conclude anything.
I would argue that that argument could be applied to this forum section. Or in other words that just moving the problem to another place.
Except you have separate topics divided onto separate matters, and this isn't a 500,000 member forum, so you don't have 20 active topics a day on Suggestions, then 20 new ones the next day.
Fine, Go ahead. Maybe so.
Quote from: Aqua on November 22, 2010, 10:29:06 PM
I think the spawn rates of everything should go up. If ever there's a hunt, the monsters don't spawn fast enough. Especially at mountain/bandits, sometimes at Temple. Hunts at Wall used to drain the spawns, but no one goes there anymore. Up the max number of spawns too...
~Aqua
I agree. With the low number of players it does seem like we need a boost in eather spawn of bosses or drop rates. Things seem a little too rare.
We need more bandits, Rock demons, Skeles, SF, Black bunnys and if you can DS and SG. To much cacti, blobs, bunnys, BA. BA needs less spawn rate like a DS and more chance of a spire/BC and also more slashers could be put into the game.
Quote from: Forum on November 22, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
We need more bandits, Rock demons, Skeles, SF, Black bunnys and if you can DS and SG. To much cacti, blobs, bunnys, BA. BA needs less spawn rate like a DS and more chance of a spire/BC and also more slashers could be put into the game.
Too many bunnies, blobs and cacti?! I'll take these one at a time.
Too many bunnies?
I have seen two bunnies in my entire life. I managed to hit one of them...once. You all know what happened to it. I have, needless to say, never owned bunny ears of any type.
Too many blobs?
According to my official history of the Stick Online world, blobs are the oldest species of SO, having sailed to SO2 during the latest(fifth) dimensional existence shift of the Stick Online universe. In short, these guys are tradition. Don't mess with them.
Too many cacti?
I spend all my time killing cacti. I need those things. Do not reduce their spawn rate. Not a lot anyway. Also the highest jump-hats in the game come from these and only these.
My guess would be that between now and SO3 there will be only 1 or maybe 2 people who manage to get LSS as it'll probably be that rare. I think it probably should have the drop rate increased or be completely taken away.
Quote from: Aqua on November 22, 2010, 10:29:06 PM
I think the spawn rates of everything should go up. If ever there's a hunt, the monsters don't spawn fast enough. Especially at mountain/bandits, sometimes at Temple. Hunts at Wall used to drain the spawns, but no one goes there anymore. Up the max number of spawns too...
~Aqua
that has been already done by meiun. The problem is that it is still depending on the amount of players online : more players -> faster spawn. You shouldve checked out forest when last one of dans tourney held place. 10 minutes -> 8 BA and that constantly! :D
SAND SWORD WAS DROPPED FROM SG
FOR FIRST TIME
to kokorrio
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4482/kokorriolss.png)
Who is, btw, level 29.
~Aqua
i'm raging so hard...!@!@!@It is true it drops from SG~!! >:(
mystery's pic works here as well.
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs30/f/2009/241/e/a/Dr_HAX_by_KrewL_RaiN.jpg
Kokorrio said his is called the "Legendary Sand Blade" and it uses 40 stamina like the normal one. It's the same as the normal one in damage and the amount of enemies it hits though.
Quote from: ARTgames on November 24, 2010, 09:48:02 PM
mystery's pic works here as well.
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs30/f/2009/241/e/a/Dr_HAX_by_KrewL_RaiN.jpg
I think that pic sums up Stick Online's BS drop system rather nicely. :-\
Yeah this is just !@#$ed. I can't even get a katana. And then some level 29 noob gets a LSB? This makes me so RAAAAAGED!!!
Quote from: Celson on November 24, 2010, 10:09:03 PM
Yeah this is just !@#$ed. I can't even get a katana. And then some level 29 noob gets a LSB? This makes me so RAAAAAGED!!!
I swear, Stick Online's drop system is a conspiracy. Low levels with both BA drops, random great drops, certain people with perfect inventories, and now this. I'd like everything to be more common, so that you don't have to grind for 5 months to get a Great Sword. :I
EDIT: For the record, Kokorrio only has that one account.
*Three days later*
And Kokorrio was never seen again.
Quote from: EpicPhailure on November 24, 2010, 10:13:07 PM
*Three days later*
And Kokorrio was never seen again.
That MIGHT just happen, with all the raging and flaming, or maybe because he almost never posts in the chat, he doesn't seem very active. If it does, hoo boy... >:(
If this guy disappears, I will be honestly ticked. I'm not so mad about him getting the LSB(although I'm only level 46, so I might not be able to relate to the rest of you guys), but if he goes inactive effectively taking the only copy of the game's all-time rarest drop, then I will consider begging, even stalking meiun to give away his account to somebody, just to have at least one LSB in the game at all times.
Footnote: I hope this chap knows what's expected of him. No more dilly-dallying about. He needs to be a community leader now. It would be just wrong for him not to be.
Only copy? I thought FoG had one as well. If this one is exactly the same (go measure the sprite by the way, for range), then there will essentially be two copies, disregarding the name difference.
Only when we question its existences does it show up. Hmmmm.
Maybe if we doubt the existence a GM Helm drop... :D!
Quote from: EpicPhailure on November 24, 2010, 11:56:08 PM
Maybe if we doubt the existence a GM Helm drop... :D!
No! SHH! You are going down a terrible path!
What an EpicFailure. lol That will never happen, but...
Wow, that is seriously hilarious. it has been implemented for way over a year and then someone posts a topic and here we go?
I mean wtf? Some random guy no one knows, pretending to has no other account comes around and gets the rarest item in game, sorry, but if that is NOT suspicious, I'm gonna eat TWO Macbook airs!
Guys, did anyone know this guy before? I just do not want to believe that.
edit: Okay I really don't want to be the bad guy, sorry for offending you, Kokorrio (or whoever you are)..
I don't know if you guys, watched him fighting the sg, but on level 29, it is nearly impossible to fight it with less than 15 agi to get back on top (I don't know his stats, but that's my first point to argue..)..
Secondly, hello? Check out his inventory..
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2465/lsb.png)
You can really see how he did everything, like I did, when I started so-crappy, he HAD experience.
1.) Going to bandits, don't say a word, collect money and bandit drops..
2.) Buy KH & whip and go back to bandits, get some more bandit drops and delete the unnecessary(how does some noob know, that ninja mask sucks balls, while bandit mask does not?)
3.) Collect enough gold for wizard, so you can keep your int at 1/7 (don't know his int and too lazy to calc, anyway..)
4.) Go to temple and kill for money, eventually get a drop(scythe in his case)
5.) Go to wall for Katana/GS & buy the other good hat (pirate)
6.) while killing cacti, you can get hammer and frog
These are the paths, which are visible in his inventory & I would totally disagree, if you want to tell me he is completely new to this game. period.
PS: Of course I am a bit jealous, but that is not why I posted this. If I am wrong, gz again, Kokorrio.
@Danimal: I think it's time for some IP-checking, heat up your gm powers, if you haven't already.
Quote from: CherryPie on November 25, 2010, 03:54:41 AM
Wow, that is seriously hilarious. it has been implemented for way over a year and then someone posts a topic and here we go?
I mean wtf? Some random guy no one knows, pretending to has no other account comes around and gets the rarest item in game, sorry, but if that is NOT suspicious, I'm gonna eat TWO Macbook airs!
Guys, did anyone know this guy before? I just do not want to believe that.
@Danimal: I think it's time for some IP-checking, heat up your gm powers.
When he got it, all he said was "red sword"
Those words shall never be forgotten. I def do not think he has an alt account.
Quote from: Ceroblitz on November 25, 2010, 03:59:58 AM
Quote from: CherryPie on November 25, 2010, 03:54:41 AM
Wow, that is seriously hilarious. it has been implemented for way over a year and then someone posts a topic and here we go?
I mean wtf? Some random guy no one knows, pretending to has no other account comes around and gets the rarest item in game, sorry, but if that is NOT suspicious, I'm gonna eat TWO Macbook airs!
Guys, did anyone know this guy before? I just do not want to believe that.
@Danimal: I think it's time for some IP-checking, heat up your gm powers.
When he got it, all he said was "red sword"
Those words shall never be forgotten. I def do not think he has an alt account.
I have more than 1 account, where still no one, but the gm's suspect that it is mine.
Red sword is so obvious and fake-/trolllike, even a bit unsurprised, since there have been no exclamation marks after that statement. If I were a noob, I would've said something like.. OMG A DROP!
Quote from: CherryPie on November 25, 2010, 03:54:41 AM
@Danimal: I think it's time for some IP-checking, heat up your gm powers, if you haven't already.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:eq7yMJty0d7DMM:http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr163/NinjaShade_04/CoolStoryBro.jpg&t=1)
Does it even !@#$ing matter? Someone found the rarest weapon in SO history. Whether he's played for years or months doesn't matter for shit, how utterly idiotic and ignorant of you to look further into it than that.
I mean what an utterly fantastic way of providing a welcoming community, props mate.
Quote from: Lucifer on November 25, 2010, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: CherryPie on November 25, 2010, 03:54:41 AM
@Danimal: I think it's time for some IP-checking, heat up your gm powers, if you haven't already.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:eq7yMJty0d7DMM:http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr163/NinjaShade_04/CoolStoryBro.jpg&t=1)
Does it even !@#$ing matter? Someone found the rarest weapon in SO history. Whether he's played for years or months
I just don't want that some hacker obtains the rarest weapon in game. We had that story already with someone, getting IS at level 2x, remember?
If he got the drop legally, I don't give a shit, I just find this whole thing suspicious.
edit: I mean come on, it was probably his first or second sg..with an str lower than 20, he probably didnt even hit the threshold..
Aright so I will just list some things that !@#$ed me up so bad.
-Vit update, which made me lose like 40 HP.
-Release of Slasher (Even tho I don't really have a problem with it)
-Release of Spire and BC which are the ultimate Vitidiot killer (and kinda killed the original pvp feeling IMO).
And now my facking weapon drops? Are you shitting me?
Oh and may I add that all good pvpers out there have at least one of these things? In many cases even 2 or 3 things of the listed items.
And I have a fackin GS. My ONLY good item was my damned lss which facking dropped... Great.
Why do I still play this game again?
Quote from: foG on November 25, 2010, 10:02:37 AM
Aright so I will just list some things that !@#$ed me up so bad.
-Vit update, which made me lose like 40 HP.
-Release of Slasher (Even tho I don't really have a problem with it)
-Release of Spire and BC which are the ultimate Vitidiot killer (and kinda killed the original pvp feeling IMO).
And now my facking weapon drops? Are you shitting me?
Oh and may I add that all good pvpers out there have at least one of these things? In many cases even 2 or 3 things of the listed items.
And I have a fackin GS. My ONLY good item was my damned lss which facking dropped... Great.
Why do I still play this game again?
Fog just a question does mybrute.com still work?
Quote from: Forum on November 25, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
Quote from: foG on November 25, 2010, 10:02:37 AM
Aright so I will just list some things that !@#$ed me up so bad.
-Vit update, which made me lose like 40 HP.
-Release of Slasher (Even tho I don't really have a problem with it)
-Release of Spire and BC which are the ultimate Vitidiot killer (and kinda killed the original pvp feeling IMO).
And now my facking weapon drops? Are you shitting me?
Oh and may I add that all good pvpers out there have at least one of these things? In many cases even 2 or 3 things of the listed items.
And I have a fackin GS. My ONLY good item was my damned lss which facking dropped... Great.
Why do I still play this game again?
Fog just a question does mybrute.com still work?
yeah foG, go back playing that stupid brute game, it's way better than StickOnline ??nnniiiihhweeiiyyee!!!
Quote from: CherryPie on November 25, 2010, 03:54:41 AM
Wow, that is seriously hilarious. it has been implemented for way over a year and then someone posts a topic and here we go?
I mean wtf? Some random guy no one knows, pretending to has no other account comes around and gets the rarest item in game, sorry, but if that is NOT suspicious, I'm gonna eat TWO Macbook airs!
Guys, did anyone know this guy before? I just do not want to believe that.
edit: Okay I really don't want to be the bad guy, sorry for offending you, Kokorrio (or whoever you are)..
I don't know if you guys, watched him fighting the sg, but on level 29, it is nearly impossible to fight it with less than 15 agi to get back on top (I don't know his stats, but that's my first point to argue..)..
Oh and Kokorr said he was 10/6/11/6
I know a handfull of 99/100s that don't have BC/slash/spire. All of which still enjoy pvping and whatnot.
Fog it doesn't matter to much that your wep dropped cause it should be an other month or so untill he gets anywhere near 99.
Although fog that vit update sounds really lame cause it effected you a ton.
Your still the ultimate build with good pvp skills and win quite a lot of your fights. Now your a little like a normal player man. Minus the fact that your have a good build and pvp skills. You still have 1 completly unique item on your hands and theres nothing wrong with that.
I don't think it is fair to FoG for his Tourny Item to be a drop. He won that, and it was suppose to be unique. It's kinda like winning the first Fedora ever... you think you have the only one, and then BAM! Everyone else has it too.
Should drop flame gauntlet to.
Quote from: Lucifer on November 25, 2010, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: CherryPie on November 25, 2010, 03:54:41 AM
@Danimal: I think it's time for some IP-checking, heat up your gm powers, if you haven't already.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:eq7yMJty0d7DMM:http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr163/NinjaShade_04/CoolStoryBro.jpg&t=1)
Does it even !@#$ing matter? Someone found the rarest weapon in SO history. Whether he's played for years or months doesn't matter for shit, how utterly idiotic and ignorant of you to look further into it than that.
I mean what an utterly fantastic way of providing a welcoming community, props mate.
I'm normally the raging one here, and I agree fully. ..But CherryPie's right, in a way. It DOES seem suspicious, seeing as I'm pretty sure no other level 29 or person remotely at that level ever got a drop from SG, much less their first one and the LSB...I'd possibly like to see an IP check. It's more likely that this was just an epic coincidence, but looking over what CherryPie said again...it makes just a bit too much sense. Especially the 'red sword' part, while that was INCREDIBLY epic, it's sure as heck not a response I'd expect. There's no harm in TRYING an IP check, after all...
Quote from: Forum on November 25, 2010, 11:11:37 AM
Should drop flame gauntlet to.
Hey, let's put even more focus on the already too-focused-on Sand Golem, even MORE so now that a level 29 got Legendary Sand Blade on his first SG! Great idea, Drop! :-X
..That idea isn't without merit, but I'd like to see that drop from BBB. Blobs need more love.
Quote from: Mystery on November 25, 2010, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: Lucifer on November 25, 2010, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: CherryPie on November 25, 2010, 03:54:41 AM
@Danimal: I think it's time for some IP-checking, heat up your gm powers, if you haven't already.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:eq7yMJty0d7DMM:http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr163/NinjaShade_04/CoolStoryBro.jpg&t=1)
Does it even !@#$ing matter? Someone found the rarest weapon in SO history. Whether he's played for years or months doesn't matter for shit, how utterly idiotic and ignorant of you to look further into it than that.
I mean what an utterly fantastic way of providing a welcoming community, props mate.
I'm normally the raging one here, and I agree fully. ..But CherryPie's right, in a way. It DOES seem suspicious, seeing as I'm pretty sure no other level 29 or person remotely at that level ever got a drop from SG, much less their first one and the LSB...I'd possibly like to see an IP check. It's more likely that this was just an epic coincidence, but looking over what CherryPie said again...it makes just a bit too much sense. Especially the 'red sword' part, while that was INCREDIBLY epic, it's sure as heck not a response I'd expect. There's no harm in trying, after all...
Quote from: Forum on November 25, 2010, 11:11:37 AM
Should drop flame gauntlet to.
Hey, let's put even more focus on the already too-focused-on Sand Golem, even MORE so now that a level 29 got Legendary Sand Blade on his first SG! Great idea, Drop! :-X
..That idea isn't without merit, but I'd like to see that drop from BBB. Blobs need more love.
Well your on that topic, the flame gauntlet tis too weak anyways for it to be wanted by killing an SG.
It's not even the same weapon as foG's. The weapon you get from the SG is a Legendary Sand Blade, foG has the Legendary Sand Sword. The knockback or damage of the weapon is probably different to foG's.
And yeah I agree. This is suspicious. I mean come on... 6 agility and 7 int? Either someones told him to set these stats and he's listened or he is not new at all.
I actually even suspect him of being a hacker. Maybe he's hacked the item into his inventory, not used it at all, fights a SG, acts innoocent and clueless "red sword", jumps down to 'pick it up', starts swinging it, everyone calls him really lucky and now he's gotten away with a hacked weapon.
It is possible. I've witnessed players long ago that hacked a GS into there inventory before the desert update. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't make it look like they got it legitimately, so they got banned. Maybe Kokorrio has.
You should never be naive to the possibility of a hacker.
First of all, everyone just shut the hell up. If there is any reason to believe that the guy is hacking, Meiun and his team will take care of it. It is not your place to sit here and spread ill will, just because he got a rare drop at a low level, and you did not. We've been told over and over that its a drop, so it had to come at some point.
Second, foG, like I said... we've known it drops.... and this is the FIRST TIME. You are still the only person at top level with that weapon, so stop complaining man. Just enjoy the damn game, you don't need to play it for your epeen's sake.
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 02:39:20 PM
It's not even the same weapon as foG's. The weapon you get from the SG is a Legendary Sand Blade, foG has the Legendary Sand Sword. The knockback or damage of the weapon is probably different to foG's.
And yeah I agree. This is suspicious. I mean come on... 6 agility and 7 int? Either someones told him to set these stats and he's listened or he is not new at all.
I actually even suspect him of being a hacker. Maybe he's hacked the item into his inventory, not used it at all, fights a SG, acts innoocent and clueless "red sword", jumps down to 'pick it up', starts swinging it, everyone calls him really lucky and now he's gotten away with a hacked weapon.
It is possible. I've witnessed players long ago that hacked a GS into there inventory before the desert update. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't make it look like they got it legitimately, so they got banned. Maybe Kokorrio has.
You should never be naive to the possibility of a hacker.
...That's actually a possibility, since he never showed the drop on the ground at all, only in his inventory, and he went straight away to pick it up without a screenshot. If he has proof to the contrary, I'd love to see it. I just want to get these doubts out of my head, because I thought it was incredibly epic at first, and he seemed very happy and all, but now.....I just want it to be proven that he got it legitimately and is
INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY lucky. I believe in Kokorrio.
Quote from: Mystery on November 25, 2010, 02:45:13 PM
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 02:39:20 PM
It's not even the same weapon as foG's. The weapon you get from the SG is a Legendary Sand Blade, foG has the Legendary Sand Sword. The knockback or damage of the weapon is probably different to foG's.
And yeah I agree. This is suspicious. I mean come on... 6 agility and 7 int? Either someones told him to set these stats and he's listened or he is not new at all.
I actually even suspect him of being a hacker. Maybe he's hacked the item into his inventory, not used it at all, fights a SG, acts innoocent and clueless "red sword", jumps down to 'pick it up', starts swinging it, everyone calls him really lucky and now he's gotten away with a hacked weapon.
It is possible. I've witnessed players long ago that hacked a GS into there inventory before the desert update. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't make it look like they got it legitimately, so they got banned. Maybe Kokorrio has.
You should never be naive to the possibility of a hacker.
...That's actually a possibility, since he never showed the drop on the ground at all, only in his inventory, and he went straight away to pick it up without a screenshot. If he has proof to the contrary, I'd love to see it. I just want to get these doubts out of my head, because I thought it was incredibly epic at first, and he seemed very happy and all, but now.....I just want it to be proven that he got it legitimately and is INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY lucky. I believe in Kokorrio.
^ this.
Oh ffs...
Not EVERYONE screenshots their drops. And what, because he didn't, he is guilty? That is ridiculous. Stop with your ignorant banter, and just let the guy be happy.
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
Oh ffs...
Not EVERYONE screenshots their drops. And what, because he didn't, he is guilty? That is ridiculous. Stop with your ignorant banter, and just let the guy be happy.
It's not 'ignorant banter' by any means, I'm supporting Koko. I want to prove that he's free of any hacking, so no one can flame him about it anymore. I'm just pointing out possibilities.
Your all paranoid.
He only registered on the forums when he got the LSB..
If you were hacking, you would be immediately banned, depending on how susceptible it is.
I would be pretty sure that if you were new to this game, got an item, your first intention would NOT to be screen shotting everything.
The people who are denying it are just jealous, and wish that they got it, instead of someone new to this game.
Celson, shush, if anything has a appearance of hacking, it would have been taken care of awhile ago.
Quote from: Mystery on November 25, 2010, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
Oh ffs...
Not EVERYONE screenshots their drops. And what, because he didn't, he is guilty? That is ridiculous. Stop with your ignorant banter, and just let the guy be happy.
It's not 'ignorant banter' by any means, I'm supporting Koko. I want to prove that he's free of any hacking, so no one can flame him about it anymore. I'm just pointing out possibilities.
There is nothing ANYONE can do to prove he did or did not hack. We don't have access to this. The only person who can do anything is Meiun. Other than that, you guys have no reason to assume he is hacking, except for circumstantial evidence based on the fact that he is new and got a very rare drop.
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
Oh ffs...
Not EVERYONE screenshots their drops. And what, because he didn't, he is guilty? That is ridiculous. Stop with your ignorant banter, and just let the guy be happy.
Are you suggesting there is no possible way that he could of hacked to get the item? Cause it sounds like it.
I will continue to call him a hacker until proven otherwise. I simply refuse to believe that someone as low as level as he was able to get a LSB. He has such little strength and vitality, he would of had to have been resting CONSTANTLY, and he would of barley reached the threshold with his miniature strength. And then even after year of the LSB being available, even with level 99's and 100's who can easily reach the threshold, none of them were able to obtain the LSB. Except a level 29 player who didn't reach the max threshold, on his first SG in Stick Online, Got a LSB...
I refuse to believe he got that LSB legitimately.
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 03:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
Oh ffs...
Not EVERYONE screenshots their drops. And what, because he didn't, he is guilty? That is ridiculous. Stop with your ignorant banter, and just let the guy be happy.
Are you suggesting there is no possible way that he could of hacked to get the item? Cause it sounds like it.
I will continue to call him a hacker until proven otherwise. I simply refuse to believe that someone as low as level as he was able to get a LSB. He has such little strength and vitality, he would of had to have been resting CONSTANTLY, and he would of barley reached the threshold with his miniature strength. And then even after year of the LSB being available, even with level 99's and 100's who can easily reach the threshold, none of them were able to obtain the LSB. Except a level 29 player who didn't reach the max threshold, on his first SG in Stick Online, Got a LSB...
I refuse to believe he got that LSB legitimately.
IF HE WAS HACKING, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF ALREADY.
You were not even paying attention to him, he could have reached max threshold, its not that hard, even at that level.
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 03:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
Oh ffs...
Not EVERYONE screenshots their drops. And what, because he didn't, he is guilty? That is ridiculous. Stop with your ignorant banter, and just let the guy be happy.
Are you suggesting there is no possible way that he could of hacked to get the item? Cause it sounds like it.
I will continue to call him a hacker until proven otherwise. I simply refuse to believe that someone as low as level as he was able to get a LSB. He has such little strength and vitality, he would of had to have been resting CONSTANTLY, and he would of barley reached the threshold with his miniature strength. And then even after year of the LSB being available, even with level 99's and 100's who can easily reach the threshold, none of them were able to obtain the LSB. Except a level 29 player who didn't reach the max threshold, on his first SG in Stick Online, Got a LSB...
I refuse to believe he got that LSB legitimately.
There is a thing called luck - which is what the entire drop system of SO is based on. Just because it is improbable, does not mean it is impossible.
You might as well and assume all of us are hackers Celson, because we aren't all providing screenshots of our drops. I mean, I got BBE at level 10! Sword got an IS at level 20! Oh noes, hackers everywhere!
Quote from: Ceroblitz on November 25, 2010, 03:08:50 PM
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 03:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
Oh ffs...
Not EVERYONE screenshots their drops. And what, because he didn't, he is guilty? That is ridiculous. Stop with your ignorant banter, and just let the guy be happy.
Are you suggesting there is no possible way that he could of hacked to get the item? Cause it sounds like it.
I will continue to call him a hacker until proven otherwise. I simply refuse to believe that someone as low as level as he was able to get a LSB. He has such little strength and vitality, he would of had to have been resting CONSTANTLY, and he would of barley reached the threshold with his miniature strength. And then even after year of the LSB being available, even with level 99's and 100's who can easily reach the threshold, none of them were able to obtain the LSB. Except a level 29 player who didn't reach the max threshold, on his first SG in Stick Online, Got a LSB...
I refuse to believe he got that LSB legitimately.
IF HE WAS HACKING, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF ALREADY.
Would it?
Who knows... Maybe you're in on it to. You seem pretty sure he isn't a hacker.
Some opinions are better kept to yourself.
If you really think he was a hacker, you should just let the moderators, or Meiun take care of it, cause you cant do jack about it except to drive the person who got it away, which you seem to be trying to do.
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 03:14:19 PM
Quote from: Ceroblitz on November 25, 2010, 03:08:50 PM
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 03:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
Oh ffs...
Not EVERYONE screenshots their drops. And what, because he didn't, he is guilty? That is ridiculous. Stop with your ignorant banter, and just let the guy be happy.
Are you suggesting there is no possible way that he could of hacked to get the item? Cause it sounds like it.
I will continue to call him a hacker until proven otherwise. I simply refuse to believe that someone as low as level as he was able to get a LSB. He has such little strength and vitality, he would of had to have been resting CONSTANTLY, and he would of barley reached the threshold with his miniature strength. And then even after year of the LSB being available, even with level 99's and 100's who can easily reach the threshold, none of them were able to obtain the LSB. Except a level 29 player who didn't reach the max threshold, on his first SG in Stick Online, Got a LSB...
I refuse to believe he got that LSB legitimately.
IF HE WAS HACKING, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF ALREADY.
Would it?
Who knows... Maybe you're in on it to. You seem pretty sure he isn't a hacker.
I draw the line there. There is no way Ceroblitz or anyone else is in on anything, if they were, they would have reported it to Meiun immediately.
Quote from: Ceroblitz on November 25, 2010, 03:18:06 PM
If you really think he was a hacker, you should just let the moderators, or Meiun take care of it, cause you cant do jack about it except to drive the person who got it away, which you seem to be trying to do.
I think Celson might be, seeing as how pissed he is over this whole ordeal. Me myself, I was ecstatic that gufi/Danimal/DeamonClawz/(-.-)/other near-perfect inventories didn't get it. It's always been about those with full inventories getting lucky, until a level 29 did a C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER and got the first ever LSB from SG, ensuring that it wouldn't go to someone with everything already, rather, to someone with nothing. THIS is why I'm hoping for my sanity that Kokorrio is legit, and I believe he is.
How 'bout them Cubs?
Alright I went to far suggesting Cero was a hacker. My apologies.
But seriously. Pretty much everyone here expect Mystery has shot me down and basically said "No you're wrong Celson. He's not a hacker, you're just jealous". I'm suggesting the possibility that he has hacked a weapon (It's been done before, it could happen again). And I believe some people here should take it into consideration rather than be ignorant about it and tell me to "shush" or "shut the hell up".
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 03:37:51 PM
Alright I went to far suggesting Cero was a hacker. My apologies.
But seriously. Pretty much everyone here expect Mystery has shot me down and basically said "No you're wrong Celson. He's not a hacker, you're just jealous". I'm suggesting the possibility that he has hacked a weapon (It's been done before, it could happen again). And I believe some people here should take it into consideration rather than be ignorant about it and tell me to "shush" or "shut the hell up".
Why? Where is your proof? I don't know about you, but the first assumption in my mind about these things isn't "This guy is hacking!".
Of course its a possibility! But honestly, you a) have no proof, and b) there is nothing you can do about it. If you truly have reason to believe that he is hacking, tell Meiun. But don't come fear mongering on the boards and defaming a guy on baseless accusations.
This chainsaw1337 dude has been hacking himself an IS too and it took a while for meiun to recognize and ban him.
Cherry and Celson might be right or not. Who knows. We will find out sooner or later.
I myself find it quite suspicious too and cherry's explaination made alot sense to me.
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 03:37:51 PM
Alright I went to far suggesting Cero was a hacker. My apologies.
But seriously. Pretty much everyone here expect Mystery has shot me down and basically said "No you're wrong Celson. He's not a hacker, you're just jealous". I'm suggesting the possibility that he has hacked a weapon (It's been done before, it could happen again). And I believe some people here should take it into consideration rather than be ignorant about it and tell me to "shush" or "shut the hell up".
Why? Where is your proof? I don't know about you, but the first assumption in my mind about these things isn't "This guy is hacking!".
Of course its a possibility! But honestly, you a) have no proof, and b) there is nothing you can do about it. If you truly have reason to believe that he is hacking, tell Meiun. But don't come fear mongering on the boards and defaming a guy on baseless accusations.
They're not proven, mind you, but they aren't baseless accusations, only supported by INCREDIBLY circumstantial evidence that has room for misinterpretation. The likelihood of events in situations such as these cannot be determined, as this event was incredibly lucky in the first place. And as such, some people will go around with accusations or bringing up possibilities either way until it is proven. It cannot be proven until Meiun inquires further into it, but you
can't denounce Celson's suggestion.
EDIT: I honestly just want Meiun to get on here at a time convenient for him and sort this crap out, so I can stop doubting this.
Quote from: Mystery on November 25, 2010, 03:46:49 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on November 25, 2010, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: Celson on November 25, 2010, 03:37:51 PM
Alright I went to far suggesting Cero was a hacker. My apologies.
But seriously. Pretty much everyone here expect Mystery has shot me down and basically said "No you're wrong Celson. He's not a hacker, you're just jealous". I'm suggesting the possibility that he has hacked a weapon (It's been done before, it could happen again). And I believe some people here should take it into consideration rather than be ignorant about it and tell me to "shush" or "shut the hell up".
Why? Where is your proof? I don't know about you, but the first assumption in my mind about these things isn't "This guy is hacking!".
Of course its a possibility! But honestly, you a) have no proof, and b) there is nothing you can do about it. If you truly have reason to believe that he is hacking, tell Meiun. But don't come fear mongering on the boards and defaming a guy on baseless accusations.
They're not proven, mind you, but they aren't baseless accusations, only supported by INCREDIBLY circumstantial evidence that has room for misinterpretation. The likelihood of events in situations such as these cannot be determined, as this event was incredibly lucky in the first place. And as such, some people will go around with accusations or bringing up possibilities either way until it is proven. It cannot be proven until Meiun inquires further into it, but you can't denounce Celson's suggestion.
Exactly, we won't know until Meiun does. BUT that doesn't mean we should assume this guy is a hacker or anything... that is just mean spirited, especially when the evidence (if any at all) is so small.
What is Mayuns say in the mattar?
Of course, foG has a real reason to be mad, but Celson is going insane over it as well.
So, if he was hacking, he would get banned sooner or later. If not, then it would be legit.
Go tell this to the moderators, posting a comment about hacking seriously does nothing about it, it just makes you look like a person who is just raging over a drop that has never been dropped before. Celson, all you're being is an ass to the people who believe it is real, and to Kokorrio.You reacted to the moment of the drop, like any jealous person would, and I think you were the only one truly mad about it that was there.. All it is a rare drop, simple, really.
Quote from: Ceroblitz on November 25, 2010, 03:52:37 PM
Of course, foG has a real reason to be mad, but Celson is going insane over it as well.
So, if he was hacking, he would get banned sooner or later. If not, then it would be legit.
Go tell this to the moderators, posting a comment about hacking seriously does nothing about it, it just makes you look like a person who is just raging over a drop that has never been dropped before. Celson, all you're being is an ass to the people who believe it is real, and to Kokorrio.You reacted to the moment of the drop, like any jealous person would, and I think you were the only one truly mad about it that was there.. All it is a rare drop, simple, really.
Agreed. VERY VERY rare, so be happy, Kokorrio. ;D
Also, reporting topic now to get this sorted out once and for all.
EDIT:
Quote from: An Error Has Occurred!You can't report your own post to the moderator, that doesn't make sense!
ffffffff-
Quote from: Ceroblitz on November 25, 2010, 03:52:37 PM
Of course, foG has a real reason to be mad, but Celson is going insane over it as well.
So, if he was hacking, he would get banned sooner or later. If not, then it would be legit.
Go tell this to the moderators, posting a comment about hacking seriously does nothing about it, it just makes you look like a person who is just raging over a drop that has never been dropped before. Celson, all you're being is an ass to the people who believe it is real, and to Kokorrio.You reacted to the moment of the drop, like any jealous person would, and I think you were the only one truly mad about it that was there.. All it is a rare drop, simple, really.
I'm simply stating my opinion. I'm not being an "ass".
Quote from: Ceroblitz on November 25, 2010, 03:18:06 PM
Some opinions are better kept to yourself.
What I have said on the last page.
I'm gonna go ahead and lock this.. I'll report Meiun's opinion (Or Meiun will post) as and when I recieve it. Personally I think you should all keep your opinions to yourselves and go by the concept 'Innocent until proven guilty'.
LSS Is not a unique weapon. If you will look at the original tournament postings in which the first one was awarded, I believe you will see that nowhere in it did we even imply that the prize would be a one of a kind item. Yes, tournament prizes were always unique and one of a kind back when the game was public, when we had a full team or artists to create them (and when they were hosted by Chaos). Sometimes even now we have unique ones, but the LSS is a dropable item. It just happens to be extremely rare.
As to the issue of possible "hacking" and all that nonsense, you guys need to stop screaming "hack" at the first sign of something you don't fully understand or else this game is going to turn into a witch hunt. Yes, there has been issues in regards to hacking a few times in the past, but they have been very rare, something we take seriously, and always something we have managed to take handle. Each of the rare few past times we have had a issue with it we had also patched up that particular problem. As always, if anyone has any genuine concerns or reason to believe someone has been breaking the rules (besides just pure speculation), email me. Otherwise, simply let us handle it.
We as the Moderation team have gone over this. It turns out that Kokorrio is Jolly Roger/Chainsaw's brother. And Jolly was also playing under a different name. We've decided it all seems much too suspicious and coincidental and have gone through with a ban for these players.
I would ask that everyone does not panic, this isn't something to keep happening. and we need not start worrying or pointing fingers. This is a closet case, and it hopefully won't be repeated. Also remember that SO2 has flaws, and Meiun made it while still in highschool. He's not has nearly three years of Computer school under his belt, and any security flaws such as this will not be present in So3.
Have a good day.
I would also like to further add that nothing is 100% confirmed yet, and I am still investigating the situation. All current actions taken are currently just precautions, and there very well may be absolutely nothing suspicious going on period. But either way, there is really no need for any of you to be concerned.
I finally had the chance to sort things out a bit further, and have concluded that there is no reason for anyone to be concerned, and as a result have unbanned the previously suspected account. If anyone has any further questions or concerns about all this, you can email me at (http://www.stick-online.com/images/email.png)