Stick Online Forums

Hey guys,

I introduce to you a new and improved PvP league website made by igufed and myself. This site offers you guys a place to quantify your efforts in PvP and compete with others at your leisure when tournaments are not on offer.



Site Features:

• An Elo Rating System: Which is a much more advanced method of scoring your wins and losses.
• A leaderboard: Which positions each registered account in numerical ranking order (includes some useful statistics for each player).
• Fight History: You are able to view a history of the last 50 fights in addition with being able to see any pending fights.
• Who's online?: This page enables people to see any players active on the site within the past 15 minutes (helpful if seeking fights).

How it works:
Okay so, we've decided that the best way to run the site is to make it 100% moderator operated. Which means that all fights will have to be overviewed by/reported to a site mod. This is to ensure all fights are formal and to avoid arguments (who won, who lost etc.). Each player will need to request an account, either in this topic, through a site moderator's email or through this forums pm system. They will be given a computer generated password (which they can change once logged in) and will be set to go.

Once logged in, players will be allowed to challenge any registered account via the site's leaderboard. Each player will appear as a button on the leaderboard, clicking this will send out a challenge to that person. You may cancel this request anytime prior to them accepting it (or denying it). You must ensure that there are site mods available to report the result to. If you are concerned about any dishonesty/disagreements then simply request a site mod overview your match. Once you have fought that player, you must both fight 3 other players before you can fight each other again.

Everything defining a fight is entirely up to the players involved (using Hotkeys, hammers only etc.). However the fight must take place at the Arena.


You should check out the site's FAQs if you're confused about anything. However, any queries/issues with the site can be discussed here. Equally you may request for an account here. 1 account per person

ok ummm...how do we sign up?

Can the fight definition include best of 3?

Edit: Suggestions:
Challenges: can you be challenged by more than one person?
Profile pages: with recent matches/all matches- Sort by outcome/player/rank/date, etc. Recent declines to show cowardice if there (This was inspired by my decision to avoid Dan ;)). Preferred/assumed dual rules.
Sort by win ratio. Just have another field that gets updated as usual with match uploads, not too hard on coding or processing.
Customizable picture (mod approved of course).
Also, owned accounts with optional inventory/stats.
~Aqua

Quote from: Aqua on December 30, 2010, 07:47:33 PM
Can the fight definition include best of 3?
~Aqua

It includes anything the two players fighting agree on.

Quote from: king on December 30, 2010, 07:44:01 PM
ok ummm...how do we sign up?

You sign up by contacting a league moderator through email or private message via these forums (not a stick online moderator, mind you, this is unofficial), and requesting the account name you want. The moderator will sign up your account, and provide you with an autogenerated password which you can change once signed in. The league moderators as of now are; Igufed, Danimal, Ceroblitz, Prosper, and myself.

Wasn't Scotty working on this?

Quote from: EpicPhailure on December 30, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
Wasn't Scotty working on this?

Scotty was working on a PvP League, but since he hadn't updated his progress in several months Igufed and Danimal decided to create their own version.

Ohhhh yees! Loved the orginal PvP League and I will most definitely love this one  ;)

Thanks very much for creating this  :D

Soo can one of you good gentlemen sign Celson up?

So, if I have a sign in as Turkey, can i have separate fights with my two accounts Maple/Shampoo?

Quote from: Turkey on December 30, 2010, 09:12:03 PM
So, if I have a sign in as Turkey, can i have separate fights with my two accounts Maple/Shampoo?

Yeah, you basically fight under one name.

I would like and account
Grim Reaper
and how are u going to tell me my accout details and shizzles?

Quote from: Grim_Reaper on December 30, 2010, 11:59:51 PM
I would like and account
Grim Reaper
and how are u going to tell me my accout details and shizzles?

I've sent you a pm of the details :)

thanks :D
{i sent a pm back about a fight}

I think you should make it so if a user challenges another user with the same rank, and the user declines, then that user should lose some rating equal to a loss. It wouldn't add to the users losses, but he/she would still lose the rating. And the challenger would not gain any rating due to the fact that he/she did not actually win the fight.

Let me put this into an example to clear it up....

How it is now

Celson (me ;)) is currently ranked 2nd on the league, Celson is ranked dagger. Igufed is also ranked dagger but his rating is lower than Celson's. Igufed challenges Celson to a fight to attempt to gain 2nd place on the league. But however Celson says "Ahh yeah I'm a chicken wuss, I know I'll lose, I humbly decline ;)". So Celson is still ranked higher than Igufed even though Igufed could easily conquer Celson in a fight.

How it should be

Igufed challenges Celson to attempt to gain 2nd place on the league. Celson says to himself "I'm gonna lose rating if I decline, but if I accept I might still win. Heck I'll do it, I accept!".


Keep in mind that rating loss from declining will only apply if both users are of the same rank. If Danimal with his short sword rank challenges Lucifer with his punch rank, and Lucifer chooses to decline, then he won't lose rating for it.

If this is implemented, then Igufed can take his rightful place in 2nd position since I will be forced to accept. If I do decline, Igufed may not get his +rating, but at least he's that much closer to over taking me.

This will also persuade people to keep there fights within there own rank, since they will have a better chance of getting a fight.

It's a good idea but having fights that must be moderated ehh, could be spectated by a random person also registered in the league?  Idk,  anyways canyou sign xJosh up.

Quote from: Josh on January 01, 2011, 06:59:46 PM
It's a good idea but having fights that must be moderated ehh, could be spectated by a random person also registered in the league?  Idk,  anyways canyou sign xJosh up.

They don't have to be moderated, but a moderator must submit the results. He doesn't have to be there during the fight, the participants just have to tell him the results.

Quote from: Josh on January 01, 2011, 06:59:46 PM
Idk,  anyways canyou sign xJosh up.

Done, password pm'd to you.

Thanks ;)

It seems the ranking system could do with some slight improvements.

Dragx_rage is ranked 10th atm. He has 1 win and 1 loss so he was a win percentage of 50%. However there are players who are yet to even have there first fight, they have a win percentage of 0% and are ranked higher than DragX_Rage. In all fairness he should be ranked higher than them.

I suggest you make it so primarily it will organise the players by the selected button (default rating). And secondary if say the ratings are equal, then it will go by win percentage.

Elo is a good rating system, but you're already facing problems of inflation. I mean in chess;

Under 1200 ELO is classified as a beginner. There are none on the site yet.
1500-1600 is average club level. This seems to be the 'beginner' rank here.
1800 is considered to be a strong club player. No-one has achieved this yet.

As you can see the rating is very cramped at the moment, and inflated. There really needs to be more matches between better players and worse players (or more in general) to straighten things out.

Lucifer or anyone else.

please fight me.

Ehh may aswell, sign me up under
NamelessHobo
(i dont use YayForLife AT ALL anymore, its my friends account now.)

Quote from: YayForLife on January 03, 2011, 06:57:42 PM
Ehh may aswell, sign me up under
NamelessHobo
(i dont use YayForLife AT ALL anymore, its my friends account now.)

Created :P

Create sayers6. please and thank you.

Quote from: Celson on January 02, 2011, 01:30:14 AM
It seems the ranking system could do with some slight improvements.

Dragx_rage is ranked 10th atm. He has 1 win and 1 loss so he was a win percentage of 50%. However there are players who are yet to even have there first fight, they have a win percentage of 0% and are ranked higher than DragX_Rage. In all fairness he should be ranked higher than them.

I suggest you make it so primarily it will organise the players by the selected button (default rating). And secondary if say the ratings are equal, then it will go by win percentage.

Do you even know what ELO is?

If Dragx had elo 1500, he would lose much more elo if he got outclassed by someone at 1200 rather than his own. So what happened is, Dragx lost to someone really low and he deserves to be in that place =)

Quote from: sayers6 on January 04, 2011, 10:34:24 AM
Create sayers6. please and thank you.

Done.

Quote from: krele on January 04, 2011, 11:48:49 AM

Quote from: Celson on January 02, 2011, 01:30:14 AM
It seems the ranking system could do with some slight improvements.

Dragx_rage is ranked 10th atm. He has 1 win and 1 loss so he was a win percentage of 50%. However there are players who are yet to even have there first fight, they have a win percentage of 0% and are ranked higher than DragX_Rage. In all fairness he should be ranked higher than them.

I suggest you make it so primarily it will organise the players by the selected button (default rating). And secondary if say the ratings are equal, then it will go by win percentage.

Do you even know what ELO is?

If Dragx had elo 1500, he would lose much more elo if he got outclassed by someone at 1200 rather than his own. So what happened is, Dragx lost to someone really low and he deserves to be in that place =)

Do you even know what I'm talking about?

Dragx_Rage has a rating of 1600. Which is the start rating. So there are players that are ranked higher than him that haven't even had there first fight, but they still equal in rating. I'm saying he should be ranked above them. So I'm suggesting that primarily it will rank them by rating, if there rating is equal, then organise them by win %.

I'll see if I can get them sorted that way.  Win% isn't currently a field in the table; it is calculated when the standings list gets created.. Also why you can't sort by that column.

We'll see.

Quote from: igufed on January 04, 2011, 04:27:21 PM
I'll see if I can get them sorted that way.  Win% isn't currently a field in the table; it is calculated when the standings list gets created.. Also why you can't sort by that column.

We'll see.

This new system you have just implemented was much better than my idea. Cheers mate!

Added something new to the site.  Check out my signature for what it was.

After logging in, if you go to the 'User Settings' button (where you also change your password), you will see new text in there with BBC tags with a URL to an image in it.  That image will be what you see in my signature, but with your account statistics.

The info in the image will update automatically.  Once you copy/paste that text from the 'User Settings' area of the league site into your signature settings for this forum, there is nothing else for you to do. 

Very neat stuff Igu, thanks for the addition!

I would like to have an account created for God-I-Suck pwease. :3

Looking good igufed!  ;)

Awesome stuff!

Quote from: God-I-Suck on January 09, 2011, 05:29:52 AM
I would like to have an account created for God-I-Suck pwease. :3

GIS, your details have been pm'd to you :)

I feel all alone not on the band wagon. I shall join. :D I'd like T-Rok please

Quote from: T-Rok on January 09, 2011, 02:03:11 PM
I feel all alone not on the band wagon. I shall join. :D I'd like T-Rok please

Created, pmed password:o

Will you sign up Kokorrio please

Quote from: Kokorrio on January 17, 2011, 01:15:25 PM
Will you sign up Kokorrio please

can you please sign up demonrager ?

Quote from: spike-balll on January 17, 2011, 04:04:58 PM
can you please sign up demonrager ?

Done, pm sent.

hey can someone sign me up, darkflash?

Quote from: darkflash on January 19, 2011, 09:31:08 AM
hey can someone sign me up, darkflash?

Account created, check your private messages.

I've noticed in the standings that you have the word 'loses' written in there. I believe the correct word is 'losses'.

http://www.definitions.net/definition/Losses

Your mind is playing tricks on you.  It has always said Losses.

:)

Small update to the site.

Started making 'profiles' for the accounts.

To get to the profile of a user is the same way you used to challenge them.  Go to the standings page and click on their name in the list.  That should bring you to a new page.

The profiles are pretty basic right now.  It just displays their stats and fight history.  I may add more things to them later.

Along with this, the way to challenge people has changed.  You still click on their name in the standings list, but, you challenge them now on their profile page.  With the same kind of button as before.  It acts just as it did when it was on the standings page.

Let me know if you have any issues.

Every time I see a marquee I die a little inside...

Quote from: Scotty on January 23, 2011, 12:15:55 AM
Every time I see a marquee I die a little inside...

Ha, yea. I was hesitant on making it a marquee.  But, I did it to make the tech people cry.. ;)

Quote from: Scotty on January 23, 2011, 12:15:55 AM
Every time I see a marquee I die a little inside...

Anyone know when the winners of the Pvp League event will be announced?

Good luck to everyone! :D

The event will be ending after today.

I'll get the names and then do the drawing and post the winners tomorrow.

Event is over.  Winners are number 1 and number 2 in the screenshot below.

I just entered in all the people eligible, and randomized the list.   Top two in the random list won.

(http://so.igufed.com/leagueevent1winners.png)

Congrats to Lucifer and Mystery.

Thank you to all that tried.

More events will come.

Congrats Lucifer and Mystery  ;)

grats luci and mystery. If mystery gets that slasher i will cry xD!

Awesome, thanks for the event!

Good luck Mystery, it's about time you get a Slasher and stop your complaining eh? ;)

Now I'm curious what "sizable" means...

gratz guys best of luck on slasher

Sheet...i wanted to win so bad..

Quote from: igufed on January 30, 2011, 11:25:31 PM
Event is over.  Winners are number 1 and number 2 in the screenshot below.

I just entered in all the people eligible, and randomized the list.   Top two in the random list won.

(http://so.igufed.com/leagueevent1winners.png)

Congrats to Lucifer and Mystery.

Thank you to all that tried.

More events will come.

damn... i'm last >:(

requesting an account for 42!.

Do you mind sharing your formula for elo calculation? I feel it really differs from what I've seen in chess and league-of-legends.

Add HotChocolate please.

Can someone please update that I lost my fight with Bread.

Will you sign up Buffi please?

Intense necrobump because everything seems really dead :c

Is the PVP League still operating?