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LSS theory

Started by TheLegendTamer, September 09, 2010, 01:19:07 AM

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Lucifer

Quote from: EpicPhailure on September 09, 2010, 06:36:00 PM
I say it drops from FoG.
When the clan system returns, I think this theory will be tested...

Seifer

Quote from: Mystery on September 09, 2010, 06:27:10 PM
Quote from: Seifer on September 09, 2010, 05:29:50 PM
Theres nothing I love more than watching you mortals.
If Meiun would just tell us outright we wouldn't have to guess.  :-\ Obviously this theory is BS, just wishful thinking. If it does drop, it drops from either the SF or SG, likelier the SG, with a chance of dropping LSS similar to the BBB's chance of dropping GS. Most likely, it doesn't drop at all and Meiun enjoys toying with us.

We've said it drops...

Mystery

Quote from: Seifer on September 09, 2010, 07:15:36 PM
Quote from: Mystery on September 09, 2010, 06:27:10 PM
Quote from: Seifer on September 09, 2010, 05:29:50 PM
Theres nothing I love more than watching you mortals.
If Meiun would just tell us outright we wouldn't have to guess.  :-\ Obviously this theory is BS, just wishful thinking. If it does drop, it drops from either the SF or SG, likelier the SG, with a chance of dropping LSS similar to the BBB's chance of dropping GS. Most likely, it doesn't drop at all and Meiun enjoys toying with us.

We've said it drops...
I don't remember a GM saying that.
AKA Paradox/EnragedDeity/Occurrence.
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Mr Pwnage

Quote from: Mystery on September 09, 2010, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: Seifer on September 09, 2010, 07:15:36 PM
Quote from: Mystery on September 09, 2010, 06:27:10 PM
Quote from: Seifer on September 09, 2010, 05:29:50 PM
Theres nothing I love more than watching you mortals.
If Meiun would just tell us outright we wouldn't have to guess.  :-\ Obviously this theory is BS, just wishful thinking. If it does drop, it drops from either the SF or SG, likelier the SG, with a chance of dropping LSS similar to the BBB's chance of dropping GS. Most likely, it doesn't drop at all and Meiun enjoys toying with us.

We've said it drops...
I don't remember a GM saying that.

Dan did, passing on the word of Meiun, apparently.
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TheLegendTamer

Epic... BBBs drop Gs. Then maybe SG do drop LSS.

BUT WHY MUST BLOBS BE SO LONELY  D':!!!

... ok

Mr Pwnage

Quote from: TheLegendTamer on September 11, 2010, 03:26:16 AM
Epic... BBBs drop Gs. Then maybe SG do drop LSS.

BUT WHY MUST BLOBS BE SO LONELY  D':!!!

... ok

Well I believe the player that the only player who ever received a GS from a BBB was banned for hacking so I wouldn't be so sure as to say that's a legitimate way to receive a GS.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein (1947)

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EpicPhailure

Quote from: Mr Pwnage on September 11, 2010, 10:26:05 AM
Quote from: TheLegendTamer on September 11, 2010, 03:26:16 AM
Epic... BBBs drop Gs. Then maybe SG do drop LSS.

BUT WHY MUST BLOBS BE SO LONELY  D':!!!

... ok

Well I believe the player that the only player who ever received a GS from a BBB was banned for hacking so I wouldn't be so sure as to say that's a legitimate way to receive a GS.

Yeah GS's haven't actually been confirmed to drop from BBBs. Who knows though?

Lucifer

Quote from: EpicPhailure on September 11, 2010, 10:27:07 AM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on September 11, 2010, 10:26:05 AM
Quote from: TheLegendTamer on September 11, 2010, 03:26:16 AM
Epic... BBBs drop Gs. Then maybe SG do drop LSS.

BUT WHY MUST BLOBS BE SO LONELY  D':!!!

... ok

Well I believe the player that the only player who ever received a GS from a BBB was banned for hacking so I wouldn't be so sure as to say that's a legitimate way to receive a GS.

Yeah GS's haven't actually been confirmed to drop from BBBs. Who knows though?
What?
Krele obtained a GS from a BBB. However controversial the topic was over whether or not it actually did drop and the screenshot was faked, he was still given a GS by Meiun wasn't he? Is this not proof?

T-Rok

Quote from: Lucifer on September 11, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
Quote from: EpicPhailure on September 11, 2010, 10:27:07 AM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on September 11, 2010, 10:26:05 AM
Quote from: TheLegendTamer on September 11, 2010, 03:26:16 AM
Epic... BBBs drop Gs. Then maybe SG do drop LSS.

BUT WHY MUST BLOBS BE SO LONELY  D':!!!

... ok

Well I believe the player that the only player who ever received a GS from a BBB was banned for hacking so I wouldn't be so sure as to say that's a legitimate way to receive a GS.

Yeah GS's haven't actually been confirmed to drop from BBBs. Who knows though?
What?
Krele obtained a GS from a BBB. However controversial the topic was over whether or not it actually did drop and the screenshot was faked, he was still given a GS by Meiun wasn't he? Is this not proof?

Not only this, but Meiun has gone on record a few times stating that a GS can be obtained from a BBB. But he also said that the drop chance is so low that it is really highly unlikely.

Prosper

#24
Since its in the topic here is what I think about drop system probabilities.

I think the probabilities of obtaining a drop are :

1:8 for common items dropped by blobs
1:16 for un-common drops like RD, Bandits, and some cacti drops.
1:32 for a little rarer items dropped by cacti (like froggy hat/wh) as well as SF drops except GS
1:64 would be for the GS dropping from anything other than bbb
1:128 Rare drops like DH, BC, SPIRE, SH, DKH, FEDORA, GB...
1:256 IS, slasher and GS from BBB
EDIT :
1:512 LSS and GS from BBB

EDIT how about this :

1:4 for common items dropped by blobs
1:8 for un-common drops like RD, Bandits, and some cacti drops.
1:16 for a little rarer items dropped by cacti (like froggy hat/wh) as well as SF drops except GS
1:32 would be for the GS dropping from anything other than bbb
1:64 Rare drops like DH, BC, SPIRE, SH, DKH, FEDORA, GB...
1:128 IS, slasher and GS from BBB
1:256 LSS and GS from BBB

Seifer

By my own estimations, I would say that's not even close. Much to low. Even for the more common things.

Prosper

Quote from: Seifer on September 11, 2010, 03:03:17 PM
By my own estimations, I would say that's not even close. Much to low. Even for the more common things.

EDIT how about this :

1:4 for common items dropped by blobs
1:8 for un-common drops like RD, Bandits, and some cacti drops.
1:16 for a little rarer items dropped by cacti (like froggy hat/wh) as well as SF drops except GS
1:32 would be for the GS dropping from anything other than bbb
1:64 Rare drops like DH, BC, SPIRE, SH, DKH, FEDORA, GB...
1:128 IS, slasher
1:256 LSS and GS from BBB

Mr Pwnage

Quote from: Prosper on September 11, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
Quote from: Seifer on September 11, 2010, 03:03:17 PM
By my own estimations, I would say that's not even close. Much to low. Even for the more common things.

EDIT how about this :

1:4 for common items dropped by blobs
1:8 for un-common drops like RD, Bandits, and some cacti drops.
1:16 for a little rarer items dropped by cacti (like froggy hat/wh) as well as SF drops except GS
1:32 would be for the GS dropping from anything other than bbb
1:64 Rare drops like DH, BC, SPIRE, SH, DKH, FEDORA, GB...
1:128 IS, slasher
1:256 LSS and GS from BBB

Way off still. Your original list was probably more accurate, at least in the less common item range....
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Prosper

You must consider that rarity gets exponantially higher as SG spawns way less often than DS. Thats why, with similar drop rates there are a lot more IS than Slashers.

Mr Pwnage

Quote from: Prosper on September 11, 2010, 06:19:15 PM
You must consider that rarity gets exponantially higher as SG spawns way less often than DS. Thats why, with similar drop rates there are a lot more IS than Slashers.

Oh I completely understand. I'm sure spire daggers are rarer than an IS in terms of numbers. Your still way off though.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein (1947)

http://www.benmward.com/projects.php