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Title: Kaspersky
Post by: senthery on April 03, 2011, 12:31:25 PM
I know stick online isn't a virus but why does Kaspersky keep detecting it as one? Its preventing me from playing it and I dont want to remove the anti virus because I just purchased a key for this program...
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Scotty on April 03, 2011, 12:36:38 PM
It's funny how I've heard so many people boast that they are using Kaspersky, and how it's the best anti-virus out there today (at least in their opinion).  These people are often the most outspoken about how (their) anti-viruses are killing their user experience with everything.  I'm not saying you're doing this right now (because you're not), but if I had a dime for every person I've heard say that Kaspersky was the best, and only a mere penny for every time I've heard complaints over how it's screwing things up for them (but it's still the "best"), I could retire before the age of 28.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: king on April 03, 2011, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 03, 2011, 12:36:38 PM
It's funny how I've heard so many people boast that they are using Kaspersky, and how it's the best anti-virus out there today (at least in their opinion).  These people are often the most outspoken about how (their) anti-viruses are killing their user experience with everything.  I'm not saying you're doing this right now (because you're not), but if I had a dime for every person I've heard say that Kaspersky was the best, and only a mere penny for every time I've heard complaints over how it's screwing things up for them (but it's still the "best"), I could retire before the age of 28.

how old are you now?..rofl
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: senthery on April 03, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
Any help guys? haha I'm really sick today and cant really go outside so I just feel like leveling on stick :p
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Delicious on April 03, 2011, 12:50:24 PM
You're unable to disable the anti-virus for a bit? Sounds like Norton and Kaspersky should be close "anti-virus" friends...
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Meiun on April 03, 2011, 05:17:15 PM
I assure you that Stick Online is no virus or malware of any kind. Kasperspy is the only antivirus program I have heard of that has had any issues with it, and it seems to be a more recent development at that. I believe it is likely due to some of the security measures the game uses to try and detect cheaters (if I had to take a guess). Either way, I havn't used Kasperspy, but I know pretty much every other AV software out there allows you to make exceptions for certain programs, so I'd try to do that if you can.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Chaos on April 03, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
Speaking as someone who HAS Kaspersky, it doesn't detect Stick Online as a virus, it detects "ProcessViewer.dll" as a virus, which is part of the anti-cheat method that Stick Online uses.  Because of the way the dll works, it is picked up as a false positive by Kaspersky.  Rest assured, it is NOT a virus.

@Scotty:  Kaspersky WAS the best.  Unfortunately, when they decided to release the 2010 version, they chose to go the Windows Vista route of security (QUESTION ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING).  Effective, but not particularly user friendly.  Every new game I attempt to play, it pops up with a "potential keylogger" because the game wants to DETECT my keyboard input so I can actually CONTROL my game.  It isn't so bad if you take the time to bother hitting the "This is a trusted program" or "Add exception for this program" etc.  :/
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Scotty on April 03, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: Chaos on April 03, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
@Scotty:  Kaspersky WAS the best.  Unfortunately, when they decided to release the 2010 version, they chose to go the Windows Vista route of security (QUESTION ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING).  Effective, but not particularly user friendly.  Every new game I attempt to play, it pops up with a "potential keylogger" because the game wants to DETECT my keyboard input so I can actually CONTROL my game.  It isn't so bad if you take the time to bother hitting the "This is a trusted program" or "Add exception for this program" etc.  :/

Perfect Example!
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 02:20:49 AM
Quote from: Scotty on April 03, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: Chaos on April 03, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
@Scotty:  Kaspersky WAS the best.  Unfortunately, when they decided to release the 2010 version, they chose to go the Windows Vista route of security (QUESTION ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING).  Effective, but not particularly user friendly.  Every new game I attempt to play, it pops up with a "potential keylogger" because the game wants to DETECT my keyboard input so I can actually CONTROL my game.  It isn't so bad if you take the time to bother hitting the "This is a trusted program" or "Add exception for this program" etc.  :/

Perfect Example!

Actually, it's a horrid example, because you seem to have missed the key operative, "was".  Unfortunately for your post, that makes all the difference.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 08:51:00 AM
Quote from: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 02:20:49 AM
Quote from: Scotty on April 03, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: Chaos on April 03, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
@Scotty:  Kaspersky WAS the best.  Unfortunately, when they decided to release the 2010 version, they chose to go the Windows Vista route of security (QUESTION ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING).  Effective, but not particularly user friendly.  Every new game I attempt to play, it pops up with a "potential keylogger" because the game wants to DETECT my keyboard input so I can actually CONTROL my game.  It isn't so bad if you take the time to bother hitting the "This is a trusted program" or "Add exception for this program" etc.  :/

Perfect Example!

Actually, it's a horrid example, because you seem to have missed the key operative, "was".  Unfortunately for your post, that makes all the difference.

And let me guess, you still have what "was" a good anti-virus it installed, even though you claim it went the "Windows Vista route of security (QUESTION ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING)."  Or did you finally ditch that horrid piece of crap anti-virus for something that actually works and lets you work?
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: senthery on April 04, 2011, 11:22:59 AM
Quote from: Meiun on April 03, 2011, 05:17:15 PM
I assure you that Stick Online is no virus or malware of any kind. Kasperspy is the only antivirus program I have heard of that has had any issues with it, and it seems to be a more recent development at that. I believe it is likely due to some of the security measures the game uses to try and detect cheaters (if I had to take a guess). Either way, I havn't used Kasperspy, but I know pretty much every other AV software out there allows you to make exceptions for certain programs, so I'd try to do that if you can.

thanks meiun, I just made the file that it was detecting a virus an exception :p
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 04:59:32 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 08:51:00 AM
Quote from: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 02:20:49 AM
Quote from: Scotty on April 03, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: Chaos on April 03, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
@Scotty:  Kaspersky WAS the best.  Unfortunately, when they decided to release the 2010 version, they chose to go the Windows Vista route of security (QUESTION ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING).  Effective, but not particularly user friendly.  Every new game I attempt to play, it pops up with a "potential keylogger" because the game wants to DETECT my keyboard input so I can actually CONTROL my game.  It isn't so bad if you take the time to bother hitting the "This is a trusted program" or "Add exception for this program" etc.  :/

Perfect Example!

Actually, it's a horrid example, because you seem to have missed the key operative, "was".  Unfortunately for your post, that makes all the difference.

And let me guess, you still have what "was" a good anti-virus it installed, even though you claim it went the "Windows Vista route of security (QUESTION ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING)."  Or did you finally ditch that horrid piece of crap anti-virus for something that actually works and lets you work?

Oh, yes, I'm going to go spend $100 for a new anti-virus when this one is perfectly functional, just merely annoying.  Sorry man, not all of us are Mr. Moneybags.

Glad to hear your problem was resolved, Senthery.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 05:19:16 PM
Who said you needed to spend $100 on an anti-virus license? (http://www.avast.com/index)  Or heck, you could even go with a much more secure operating system to avoid a vast majority of what plagues the pc world. (http://www.ubuntu.com/)
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 05:19:16 PM
Who said you needed to spend $100 on an anti-virus license? (http://www.avast.com/index)  Or heck, you could even go with a much more secure operating system to avoid a vast majority of what plagues the pc world. (http://www.ubuntu.com/)

No thanks, I like games.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 05:19:16 PM
Who said you needed to spend $100 on an anti-virus license? (http://www.avast.com/index)  Or heck, you could even go with a much more secure operating system to avoid a vast majority of what plagues the pc world. (http://www.ubuntu.com/)

No thanks, I like games.

It's ok, we all can't learn the benefits of cutting ties, letting go and moving on.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: krele on April 04, 2011, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 05:19:16 PM
Who said you needed to spend $100 on an anti-virus license? (http://www.avast.com/index)  Or heck, you could even go with a much more secure operating system to avoid a vast majority of what plagues the pc world. (http://www.ubuntu.com/)

No thanks, I like games.

It's ok, we all can't learn the benefits of cutting ties, letting go and moving on.
Let him be, it's his own decision. He's willing to sacrifice some security for compatibility, nothing wrong there mate =)
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 08:05:10 PM
Quote from: krele on April 04, 2011, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: Chaos on April 04, 2011, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 04, 2011, 05:19:16 PM
Who said you needed to spend $100 on an anti-virus license? (http://www.avast.com/index)  Or heck, you could even go with a much more secure operating system to avoid a vast majority of what plagues the pc world. (http://www.ubuntu.com/)

No thanks, I like games.

It's ok, we all can't learn the benefits of cutting ties, letting go and moving on.
Let him be, it's his own decision. He's willing to sacrifice some security for compatibility, nothing wrong there mate =)

If one is half-way competent with computers, you don't need to rely on the computer for security anyway.  I would much rather have a computer that is more than partially functional, so yeah, I'm fine with my decision.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: ARTgames on April 04, 2011, 11:17:20 PM
I don't care if you use it but I tend to not like using antivirus software. Non the less every one here is right that stick online is nothing to worry about. Just a false positive.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Meiun on April 04, 2011, 11:21:18 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on April 04, 2011, 11:17:20 PM
I don't care if you use it but I tend to not like using antivirus software.
Thats a pretty bold and risky move. There are plenty of free, lightweight, and non-intrusive AV programs out there that do a great job. Simply being smart about how you use your computer and the internet may protect you against the vast majority of threats, but it can't protect you against everything. Particularly when it comes to OS, browser, or other security holes that have yet to be found or patched.

Oh, and not that it's a big deal at this point. But lets try and make sure this discussion doesn't end up getting too far off topic (not that it is now).
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: darkflash on April 04, 2011, 11:50:23 PM
I don't pay for anti virus software. And I never got a virus EVER.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: CherryPie on April 05, 2011, 03:41:48 AM
Quote from: darkflash on April 04, 2011, 11:50:23 PM
I don't pay for anti virus software. And I never got a virus EVER.
You have to hate porn.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: darkflash on April 05, 2011, 09:07:44 AM
I don't hate it. I jut have a girl friend and I get it in real life.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: ARTgames on April 05, 2011, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Meiun on April 04, 2011, 11:21:18 PM
Thats a pretty bold and risky move. There are plenty of free, lightweight, and non-intrusive AV programs out there that do a great job. Simply being smart about how you use your computer and the internet may protect you against the vast majority of threats, but it can't protect you against everything. Particularly when it comes to OS, browser, or other security holes that have yet to be found or patched.

Hey don't get me wrong. I see the use in it. I do keep up to date and do safe practices along with often reinstalls. You can call me lazy and unsafe and I would agree. And If you recommended me some tools I will probably install them if they are free. I also don't recommend other people to follow me and what I said in my last post. Your right that there are good tools out there and I recommend other people to use them also. :)
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: RayRay on April 05, 2011, 05:33:43 PM
I had avast! installed, and while I was playing Minecraft, a virus came and the two anti-virus clashed, thus destroying my computer which led me to reformat it. I'm not sure what happened, but they seem to be both good anti-virus.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Scotty on April 05, 2011, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: RayRay on April 05, 2011, 05:33:43 PM
I had avast! installed, and while I was playing Minecraft, a virus came and the two anti-virus clashed, thus destroying my computer which led me to reformat it. I'm not sure what happened, but they seem to be both good anti-virus.

You never want two anti-viruses installed, and this is the exact reason why.
Title: Re: Kaspersky
Post by: Kiegruen on April 05, 2011, 06:38:38 PM
Yeah, two anti-viruses is dangerous. I prefer avast! personally, but I've never used Kaspersky, therefore I can't really compare the two. However, I have heard some not so good things about it, as well as hardcore fanatics, not really sure what to think of it. I'm just fine with avast!, never had a problem with it...