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Title: My re-creations.
Post by: Looperpuck on August 22, 2009, 06:17:12 AM
Well, the name kinda explains it, this topic is about me recreating some of the stick online hats. Just for fun of course. And so far I only have these 2. If you want, you can request a hat for me to re-create. Well here they are. =D

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7789/santahatremake.png)
Santa hat V1

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7106/santahatremaket.png)
Santa Hat V2

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9541/tophatrecreat.png)
Tophat V1

(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9541/tophatrecreat.png)
Tophat V2

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2330/banditremake.png)
Bandit Mask  V1
~Looperpuck
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: yottabyte on August 22, 2009, 10:10:15 AM
Good job! I like the white piece of your santa hat :)
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: EpicPhailure on August 22, 2009, 10:19:34 AM
The white trim around your Santa hat looks a bit bright to me. Perhaps it's the left section of the trim blending with the white of the stick head.

And I don't really like the top hat. It looks really choppy, and the shading looks odd.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: HaZZe on August 22, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
Nice i like the Santa.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: ARTgames on August 22, 2009, 01:31:11 PM
that new top hat is a lot more classy.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Lucifer on August 22, 2009, 02:31:32 PM
Tophat  looks, as epic said, choppy. The fluff on the santa hat is a good idea, but I think you went a little overkill on it and added too much.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: God-I-Suck on August 22, 2009, 02:32:44 PM
The Santa Hat looks actually cool! But I agree with EpicPhail about the trim or fuzz being too bright.

The top hat, I really don't have a comment. :/
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Looperpuck on August 22, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
Fixed the problems you guys saw =D

~Looperpuck
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: God-I-Suck on August 22, 2009, 04:42:21 PM
I like Santa Hat V2! Good Job!

The top hat looks ok, but I still don't have much to say. xd
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Looperpuck on August 22, 2009, 04:42:54 PM
Lol, what is there for me to do to improve the Top hat?

~Looperpuck
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: God-I-Suck on August 22, 2009, 04:45:49 PM
Idk, there's just not much to add to the top hat, lol.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: EpicPhailure on August 22, 2009, 05:38:06 PM
The Santa hat is a bit better.

The top hat, still don't like. Maybe it's the dark part of your shading.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: ARTgames on August 22, 2009, 06:48:55 PM
take into consideration not ever mounter display colors the same. its almost impossible to see the changes in the bandit mask with what im using.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Dragx_Rage on August 22, 2009, 07:03:22 PM
I like these, good job!
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Mr Pwnage on August 22, 2009, 08:53:34 PM
From a supportive Mom's point of view: "Great work darling!!!"

From a knowledgeable critic's points of view: "Holy cow pies. I don't even know where to start. The shading is senseless, the shapes are sloppy, the colors don't blend well, must I go on?"


Let's go with the supportive Mom's point of view. ;)
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: EpicPhailure on August 22, 2009, 08:59:02 PM
The bandit mask barely looks different. I had to zoom in using a Firefox add-on to see the changes.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Torch on August 22, 2009, 11:02:36 PM
I like the bandit mask edit.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Looperpuck on August 23, 2009, 12:49:43 AM
Hmph, well I'm not gunna take to harshly to Mr Pwnages comments, since he does that to everyone, and I know he is a better spriter to than me.

~Looperpuck
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Pat on August 23, 2009, 02:09:04 AM
I prefer the originals, a lot. The simplicity of the sprites is what makes the game look good. You've tried to shade the crap out of it and removed the outlines. Notice that everything in the game has an outline, some have super thick outlines.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Mr Pwnage on August 23, 2009, 03:05:56 AM
Quote from: Looperpuck on August 23, 2009, 12:49:43 AM
Hmph, well I'm not gunna take to harshly to Mr Pwnages comments, since he does that to everyone, and I know he is a better spriter to than me.

~Looperpuck
They weren't meant to be taken harsh anyways. I was trying to give you a bit of criticism in a somewhat humorous manner...If you look back I believe I gave you 3 things you could improve on? And I am not necessarily a better spriter than you...I just spend a lot of time and have a little more experience in the field...but by no means does that mean you cannot produce something as good as, or better than me. Keep at it.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Looperpuck on August 23, 2009, 03:08:33 AM
Heh, thanks man. Yeah, been spriting for a while but, Not yet sure on shading concepts, I know the one where the light would be shining. But thats pretty much it.

~Looperpuck
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: JoEL on August 25, 2009, 01:11:27 AM
I think what Mr_Pwnage said was uncalled for, seemed more like you were trying to give looperpuck a hard time. You should be giving him some constructive critisism to help guide him in improving his work.

Also I do believe looper didn't intend to put these in the game, this is just for fun and experience I am guessing.

@looper
I Like how you have re-made these hats by improving there shape and shading. The only thing I could see that looked a bit odd was the top hat, I'm not really sure why it just seems strange to me, maybe the shape of it seems to jaggered in some areas?
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Looperpuck on August 25, 2009, 04:36:31 AM
Awesome, Glad to hear that. At least you weren't as harsh as Pwnage.

~Looperpuck
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Mr Pwnage on August 25, 2009, 01:18:08 PM
Quote from: Looperpuck on August 25, 2009, 04:36:31 AM
Awesome, Glad to hear that. At least you weren't as harsh as Pwnage.

~Looperpuck
Believe me...I would -karma myself if I could. >.>

And I completely realize he wasn't making them for the game...it is just fanart. I see the effort...but to be honest the shading is pretty senseless. I'll give you an example: On the santa hat, why would there be a light splotch of red in the middle of the hat? It makes it look like plastic. Santa hat's are somewhat fuzzy, you should use dithering. Also I kinda like the white fuzz on the bottom of it, but it is too big for the hat itself, you should shrink it a bit because you got rid of the black outline, and now it looks really big. On the tophat, how is it physically possible for those shadows to over top each other like that? Also, the different shades are wayyy to different in contrast...use shades closer to each other. On the bandit mask, I don't see why there is a lighter shade of red going under the mask? I think of it more like cloth...so a light dithering would be better.

Again I realize it is just fanart...so feel free to disregard anything I just said and call me harsh.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Mr. Stick on September 19, 2009, 12:15:36 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Seifer on September 19, 2009, 10:41:40 PM
Harsh critisicm is a great thing. If we all sit here and look at some work that seems to be done by a 4 year old and say 'Great job Loop!' than what will that accomplish? We should all be brutally honest with him so that he may see his faults and improve upon them.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: flashmaniac on September 19, 2009, 10:54:43 PM
Quote from: Seifer on September 19, 2009, 10:41:40 PM
Harsh critisicm is a great thing. If we all sit here and look at some work that seems to be done by a 4 year old and say 'Great job Loop!' than what will that accomplish? We should all be brutally honest with him so that he may see his faults and improve upon them.

I agree. You learn the most from failure.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: DarkTrinity on September 20, 2009, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: flashmaniac on September 19, 2009, 10:54:43 PM
Quote from: Seifer on September 19, 2009, 10:41:40 PM
Harsh critisicm is a great thing. If we all sit here and look at some work that seems to be done by a 4 year old and say 'Great job Loop!' than what will that accomplish? We should all be brutally honest with him so that he may see his faults and improve upon them.

I agree. You learn the most from failure.

I agree with flash. Can't say I completely agree with Seify... You can give good, completely helpful criticism with out being harsh, or in Pwnage's case, rude.
I don't find Loop's sprites to be that bad. He was given helpful criticism and has improved them. They could use more work maybe, but what matters is that he's improving and taking the constructive criticism well.

Now if someone makes shitty sprites and isn't taking constructive criticism well, and isn't improving, then it may call for some harsh criticism.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Torch on September 20, 2009, 04:30:19 PM
Quote from: DarkTrinity on September 20, 2009, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: flashmaniac on September 19, 2009, 10:54:43 PM
Quote from: Seifer on September 19, 2009, 10:41:40 PM
Harsh critisicm is a great thing. If we all sit here and look at some work that seems to be done by a 4 year old and say 'Great job Loop!' than what will that accomplish? We should all be brutally honest with him so that he may see his faults and improve upon them.

I agree. You learn the most from failure.

I agree with flash. Can't say I completely agree with Seify... You can give good, completely helpful criticism with out being harsh, or in Pwnage's case, rude.
I don't find Loop's sprites to be that bad. He was given helpful criticism and has improved them. They could use more work maybe, but what matters is that he's improving and taking the constructive criticism well.

Now if someone makes shitty sprites and isn't taking constructive criticism well, and isn't improving, then it may call for some harsh criticism.
QFT

Looper's sprites aren't bad and he isn't suggesting them as ideas. He's just looking to show and improve his work. In this case, harsh criticism is uncalled for.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Mr Pwnage on September 20, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
Why did you all revive this topic to talk about pointless shit that I said on August 25th? Seriously people...look at when I posted, than when the brilliant Mr. Stick posted...

You sick, necroing, bastards.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Mystery on September 20, 2009, 06:55:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on September 20, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
Why did you all revive this topic to talk about pointless shit that I said on August 25th? Seriously people...look at when I posted, than when the brilliant Mr. Stick posted...

You sick, necroing, bastards.
Oddly, most people do that when a topic is revived/necro'd. They keep discussing the same thing that went on a while before.

And it would've possibly been better if Mr. Stick had something to contribute to the discussion. It would've still been necroing, but he'd have a reason. But instead, he revives a topic with a 2-word post. -_-
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: JoEL on September 20, 2009, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on September 20, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
Why did you all revive this topic to talk about pointless shit that I said on August 25th?

Well everyone else besides you that actually had a comment to do with the actual subject of the post. If you care that much about a topic being necro'd PM them instead of just bumping this topic for further more posts (just like Mystery did) and like what I did, just to prove your an ass.

Quote from: Mr Pwnage on September 20, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
You sick, necroing, bastards.

I think all but the middle one describes you perfectly :)

Quote from: Torch
Looper's sprites aren't bad and he isn't suggesting them as ideas. He's just looking to show and improve his work. In this case, harsh criticism is uncalled for.

I completely agree as well, I know from experience that harsh criticism doesn't improve your work at all, it just makes you think if any of your future work will be treated as badly as this.


Quote from: Seifer
Harsh critisicm is a great thing.

:O
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Mystery on September 20, 2009, 09:22:57 PM
Quote from: JoEL on September 20, 2009, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on September 20, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
Why did you all revive this topic to talk about pointless shit that I said on August 25th?
Well everyone else besides you that actually had a comment to do with the actual subject of the post. If you care that much about a topic being necro'd PM them instead of just bumping this topic for further more posts (just like Mystery did) and like what I did, just to prove your an ass.
Did I NOT say it would've been better if Mr. Stick had contributed? Everyone else who posted after it was necroed did, which is good. I could care less about my post count. >_>

Harsh criticism CAN be good, but not that often. Only if something is really terrible and the people who give out the criticism have a lot more knowledge to help contribute to making it better, and use it harshly to emphasize their point(or because there's just so much wrong with it). But Loop's sprites aren't THAT bad. Yes, he does have a few of the problems Pwnage pointed out, but other than that, they're decent.
Title: Re: My re-creations.
Post by: Mr Pwnage on September 20, 2009, 11:25:31 PM
I was trying to be funny and helpful at the same time. Sorry, I have a sick sense of humor...and sorry I can usually not convey a point without making people go apeshit. Now can we please move on with our lives and let this shit die? Can I get an "Amen!"? (Say it out loud, don't post it.)