get ready for another 4 years of nothing really going down.
Well this topic is going to spiral nowhere but down...
Yes, he did win.
I was kinda neutral for this years election, which is why I didn't want to vote. I'm against pro choice, but I was for question 6. We've seen what it has been like under Obama so far which isn't necessarily good or bad. Romney to me seemed like he thought he could just buy his way into the presidency. Honestly I'm not happy or upset that he won, kind of just sitting on the fence to see how the next 4 years go.
Being Canadian, I hypothetically voted Obama.
Being Mormon, I still hypothetically voted Obama. I'd explain but I'd rather not go into the religion topic.
If I had the choice? I would have picked neither of them and voted for Ron Paul. He's a boss.
In my opinion, here's the deal. The biggest issue right now is the economy. The economy going into the last term was essentially going down hill. The economy going into this term is essentially coming back up. I don't think Obama had much to do with either the recession or the current recovery. I don't think either Obama or Romney would have much to do with the sustained recovery or another downturn. The economy is it's own beast and there are far more important factors than who the president is and what their policies are to how the economy performs.
Judging by the OPs post it is unclear whether this is supposed to devolve into a political flame war or simply regurgitate common knowledge. In any event, while I wasn't particularly passionate about either of the two candidates, I based my vote off of how much traffic they caused at my school. Obama came and spoke here twice, and Romney came only once on Monday...and I think it is safe to say that traffic during Romney's presence was way worse than both days combined Obama was here, and therefore Obama got my +1. Romney should be more considerate of my schedule and not come during the week I have 3 tests. >:(
if only newt had gotten republican candidate and won, i want to live in space colonys.
~space is the place~
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if only newt had gotten republican candidate and won, i want to live in space colonys.
~space is the place~
Wait what.. explain this to a un-knowledgeable Canadian.
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Quote from: TANK on November 07, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
if only newt had gotten republican candidate and won, i want to live in space colonys.
~space is the place~
Wait what.. explain this to a un-knowledgeable Canadian.
Newt Gingrich.
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if only newt had gotten republican candidate and won, i want to live in space colonys.
~space is the place~
Wait what.. explain this to a un-knowledgeable Canadian.
Newt Gingrich.
Yeah, I never heard anything about him. I'm too lazy to google. What was his thing?
i think newt also wanted to build a giant outerspace mirror to reflect sunlight onto dark highways during the night. which is simialr to what a villian in a 007 film wanted to do.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/newt-gingrichs-history-in-outer-space/252168/
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Quote from: TANK on November 07, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
if only newt had gotten republican candidate and won, i want to live in space colonys.
~space is the place~
Wait what.. explain this to a un-knowledgeable Canadian.
Newt Gingrich.
Yeah, I never heard anything about him. I'm too lazy to google. What was his thing?
Honestly I don't know either haha. I don't pay much attention to politics.
Quote2) Helping the Handicapped. Gingrich saw and emphasized "the possible benefits of weightlessness to people currently restricted to wheelchairs." This may sound farfetched, but Gingrich had done his homework; he reported that when he shared the idea with paraplegics they "begin asking questions in an enthusiastic tone."
...Wow... This can't be real...
Reminds me of Spy Kids 3(D), where the crippled Grandpa can walk around on the moon or something like thatAnyway, I think having Obama in office for another 4 years is a good thing: Less war and army budget, more green energy (I don't see why anyone would want to ~only want to harvest coal+oil to be "energy independent," when it means we will run out sooner), abortion=~ok, gay marriage=~ok, better healthcare, unions and the like are all things Obama stands for.
If I was a citizen (Canadian living in the States-currently 17) I would probably vote Green Party, but Democrats are the next best thing.
im not a US citizen, born and reside in the UK. I followed this election from the first republican debate, hooked in by Ron Paul who for the most part for me spoke a lot of sense compared to what i heard most other politicians say plus it was fun watching him kick off about liberty and freedom and all that stuff, I wasn't surprised when Romney was chosen as he had all the big banks backing him and didn't rock the boat, equally not surprised when Obama won but i remain highly skeptical over what good he will or can do. My only real hope is that he doesn't allow the DEA to go after washington and colorado, all of that new tax money from regulated sale will really help you to become self sufficient in energy right? put to better schools, hospitals, teachers and nurses hmm? from across the pond ill wait and see, we can only hope for sense to trickle down from your country, mine lost the plot years ago. =D
I concur with that. Obama won all right. Now if only they could get agreeable people like ourselves into Congress, we'd really go places!
I'm generally of the bent that the big Presidential elections tend to be only a surface facade, anyway. If you want to have your opinions and ideals actually affect the way you live, pay super-close (maybe even obsessive) attention to lower-level, less glamorous elections. The way I figure it, Congress, the state legislatures, and your local government are the ones who pass the laws. Laws are the government action that dictate how I can live my life. Next year, I can vote. I'll pay less attention to showy, distracting neon sign of big politics with its whirly wheels and flashing lights. I'll look past the pretty show and inspect the stuff that matters to me.
As far as Obama vs. Romney goes...my parents voted for Romney, so I guess he gets my endorsement(for all the good it does now), but I'm pretty sure neither of them are out for my best interests.
That said, what frightens me more than an Obama victory is the level of knowledge regarding U.S. politics displayed in this thread alone by foreigners. That's not bad. It's even a kind of cultural compliment, acknowledge how important America is in the world. (Yeah, I went there.) The scary part happens when I compare that level of information to that of the people around me who can vote.
Why does someone in the UK understand my country better than I do? Hello, school system? You're failing here!
[EDIT]:Woops! I forgot my bluetext! I am shamed.
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Yes, he did win.
Yeah I agree.
I'm glad we can agree on something.
I agree with you agreeing to art agreeing with you.
I agree to the fact that you agree with Turkey agreeing to Art agreeing with him.
I agree with your agreement of his agreeing with Turkey agreeing to Art who agrees with him.
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Quote from: Turkey on November 07, 2012, 03:37:49 AM
Yes, he did win.
Yeah I agree.
I'm glad we can agree on something.
I agree with you agreeing to art agreeing with you.
I agree to the fact that you agree with Turkey agreeing to Art agreeing with him.
I agree with your agreement of his agreeing with Turkey agreeing to Art who agrees with him.
I disagree.
QuoteWhy does someone in the UK understand my country better than I do? Hello, school system? You're failing here!
watching american political media is like comedy to me, some of the political pundits are hilarious and you got some funny comedy show hosts. im actually surprised how easy to absorb the US political system is, i still dont understand fully how the UK works lol
Us Government: We elect a President, but really everything is decided by the Senate who isn't democratically voted in.
That's all I know.
Time to sound edgy on the internet! But in all seriousness, I don't think the two party system we have in the US is working out at all ATM. Republicans and Democrats are far too bipartisan and offer no new ideas on the role of government. There are no real fundamental differences between the parties on big issues like health care, foreign policy, and economic policy. For the most part, they both want federal healthcare mandates, they both support sanctions and drone strikes and occupation and interventionism, they both support the Federal Reserve and Keynesian economics, etc.
I feel like we're just locked into this status quo and there's nothing we can do to change that. The media sure as hell doesn't want to introduce new political ideas and both parties are corrupt as hell.
Personally, I really wanted Ron Paul to get the nomination for the GOP, but "HURRRR he won over 5 states, let's change the requirement to 10 states by holding a vote in which the audience will yell out YAY or NAY so that it'll seem like they had any significant involvement or influence in our decision making". As if yelling were accurate means of FKJAHSDFKJAHSDFKJHSDAKFJHASKASDLKJFSADLKFJSLDAKJF
Forget it... Nothing but scum...
Quote from: HeroicHero on November 09, 2012, 12:23:29 AM
Time to sound edgy on the internet! But in all seriousness, I don't think the two party system we have in the US is working out at all ATM. Republicans and Democrats are far too bipartisan and offer no new ideas on the role of government. There are no real fundamental differences between the parties on big issues like health care, foreign policy, and economic policy. For the most part, they both want federal healthcare mandates, they both support sanctions and drone strikes and occupation and interventionism, they both support the Federal Reserve and Keynesian economics, etc.
I feel like we're just locked into this status quo and there's nothing we can do to change that. The media sure as hell doesn't want to introduce new political ideas and both parties are corrupt as hell.
Personally, I really wanted Ron Paul to get the nomination for the GOP, but "HURRRR he won over 5 states, let's change the requirement to 10 states by holding a vote in which the audience will yell out YAY or NAY so that it'll seem like they had any significant involvement or influence in our decision making". As if yelling were accurate means of FKJAHSDFKJAHSDFKJHSDAKFJHASKASDLKJFSADLKFJSLDAKJF
Forget it... Nothing but scum...
Wait what. I was rooting for Ron Paul since the beginning. But are you being serious, they increased the requirement after he won?
Quote from: T-Rok on November 09, 2012, 01:12:40 AM
Quote from: HeroicHero on November 09, 2012, 12:23:29 AM
Time to sound edgy on the internet! But in all seriousness, I don't think the two party system we have in the US is working out at all ATM. Republicans and Democrats are far too bipartisan and offer no new ideas on the role of government. There are no real fundamental differences between the parties on big issues like health care, foreign policy, and economic policy. For the most part, they both want federal healthcare mandates, they both support sanctions and drone strikes and occupation and interventionism, they both support the Federal Reserve and Keynesian economics, etc.
I feel like we're just locked into this status quo and there's nothing we can do to change that. The media sure as hell doesn't want to introduce new political ideas and both parties are corrupt as hell.
Personally, I really wanted Ron Paul to get the nomination for the GOP, but "HURRRR he won over 5 states, let's change the requirement to 10 states by holding a vote in which the audience will yell out YAY or NAY so that it'll seem like they had any significant involvement or influence in our decision making". As if yelling were accurate means of FKJAHSDFKJAHSDFKJHSDAKFJHASKASDLKJFSADLKFJSLDAKJF
Forget it... Nothing but scum...
Wait what. I was rooting for Ron Paul since the beginning. But are you being serious, they increased the requirement after he won?
Seems like it was rigged to keep him out of the election. I honestly don't pay much attention to this stuff but I saw a few of Ron Paul's speeches and he seemed like the best candidate to me.
Quote from: T-Rok on November 09, 2012, 01:12:40 AM
Quote from: HeroicHero on November 09, 2012, 12:23:29 AM
Time to sound edgy on the internet! But in all seriousness, I don't think the two party system we have in the US is working out at all ATM. Republicans and Democrats are far too bipartisan and offer no new ideas on the role of government. There are no real fundamental differences between the parties on big issues like health care, foreign policy, and economic policy. For the most part, they both want federal healthcare mandates, they both support sanctions and drone strikes and occupation and interventionism, they both support the Federal Reserve and Keynesian economics, etc.
I feel like we're just locked into this status quo and there's nothing we can do to change that. The media sure as hell doesn't want to introduce new political ideas and both parties are corrupt as hell.
Personally, I really wanted Ron Paul to get the nomination for the GOP, but "HURRRR he won over 5 states, let's change the requirement to 10 states by holding a vote in which the audience will yell out YAY or NAY so that it'll seem like they had any significant involvement or influence in our decision making". As if yelling were accurate means of FKJAHSDFKJAHSDFKJHSDAKFJHASKASDLKJFSADLKFJSLDAKJF
Forget it... Nothing but scum...
Wait what. I was rooting for Ron Paul since the beginning. But are you being serious, they increased the requirement after he won?
"Ron Paul successfully submitted his nomination from five states (seven if you counted Mass and Maine which had delegates illegally removed) and one territory meeting the five state requirement to be nominated. The GOP refused to recognize it even though this goes against all rules and precedent."
This website explains the GOP's incompetence and blatant bias against Ron Paul from the start. It's pretty damn ridiculous.
http://giavellireport.com/2012/08/28/rnc-a-microcosm-of-corrupt-america/
Quote from: Jackabomb on November 08, 2012, 09:37:44 AM
I concur with that. Obama won all right. Now if only they could get agreeable people like ourselves into Congress, we'd really go places!
I'm generally of the bent that the big Presidential elections tend to be only a surface facade, anyway. If you want to have your opinions and ideals actually affect the way you live, pay super-close (maybe even obsessive) attention to lower-level, less glamorous elections. The way I figure it, Congress, the state legislatures, and your local government are the ones who pass the laws.
exactly what i meant with my post. presidential elections are overrated. the supreme court and the congress majority party are the most powerful things in the american government, but everyone faps over the president.