Moral Thinking

[Ciro]

I have a question that relates to the topic, but not the original question... O_o


I hate it when people are rude.
I hate it when people are both purposely rude, and unintentionally rude.
I hate rude people.
When someone is being disrespectful, and completely ignoring the fact that they're a neuscense, I hate that.
So, when a white person does it I hate it, and when a black person does it, I hate it, o-o

But does it make me a racist if I find that more black people tend to be rude?

The way racism is viewed in this day and age is so skewed. That's the issue.

As Rayu before me said, it comes down to stereotypes, and most are true.

A large portion of black people in USA are still very poor, because of their roots in slavery no doubt. Since they came from nothing they've never really gotten ahead. Because of their financial situation they usually grow up in bad neighborhoods "The hood". Since they grow up in these bad neighborhoods the pick up bad habits. So long story short, because of the way a lot of them are raised, they ultimately end up exactly like their stereotype.

This works for any race. We have stereotypes for a reason. They don't come from nothing and they aren't made it. This isn't to say that everyone of that particular race is that way, but for a vast majority it is true.

So is stereotyping racist? no.

Wow... O_o you know... I don't believe I've looked at it this way before. Wow... great point. Huh... now it sorta makes more sense. XDD I feel like you opened my eyes

[Specialboy]

I personally think that morals are subjective.  Right in our culture is wrong in another one, and there is still massive deviation within cultures.  Having grown up and Universal Health Care (Canadian Culture bias), I believe that Health is a basic right.  However, being a middle-upper class suburban kid (more cultural bias), I can see the benefits of a health care as a capitalistic venture, as it encourages competition, both in price and quality.  However, in this case, the competitive nature of health care has not made it more affordable, and the question did not say anything about the quality of the medicine, my Canadian cultural bias is going to overcome my middle-upper class suburban cultural bias, and I will say the man did the right thing.

[Scotty]

I have a question that relates to the topic, but not the original question... O_o


I hate it when people are rude.
I hate it when people are both purposely rude, and unintentionally rude.
I hate rude people.
When someone is being disrespectful, and completely ignoring the fact that they're a neuscense, I hate that.
So, when a white person does it I hate it, and when a black person does it, I hate it, o-o

But does it make me a racist if I find that more black people tend to be rude?

The way racism is viewed in this day and age is so skewed. That's the issue.

As Rayu before me said, it comes down to stereotypes, and most are true.

A large portion of black people in USA are still very poor, because of their roots in slavery no doubt. Since they came from nothing they've never really gotten ahead. Because of their financial situation they usually grow up in bad neighborhoods "The hood". Since they grow up in these bad neighborhoods the pick up bad habits. So long story short, because of the way a lot of them are raised, they ultimately end up exactly like their stereotype.

This works for any race. We have stereotypes for a reason. They don't come from nothing and they aren't made it. This isn't to say that everyone of that particular race is that way, but for a vast majority it is true.

So is stereotyping racist? no.

Wow... O_o you know... I don't believe I've looked at it this way before. Wow... great point. Huh... now it sorta makes more sense. XDD I feel like you opened my eyes

I agree with Lingus.  I give everyone a fair chance at first.  I don't assume every black person is a gangster (my project manager, great guy, about the whitest black guy I think I know), I don't assume every mexican who can't speak english is an illegal immigrant, I don't assume every native american runs an economy robbing casino, I wait for them to prove those things to me before I assume them.  Now what does bother me, and will cause me to stereotype quicker than ever is to have someone purposely put themselves into that stereotype because he enjoys being part of the "cool crowd" that exploits their own attitude and status to piss off others.  For instance, back in my home town, there is a very low black population.  Not quite sure why, but we only had 2 in my graduating class.  I thought one of the guys was great, got along with him real well.  Well one summer he went away to his Dad's house down an hour and a half south, and lived in "the slums" over the summer.  He came back all "Gangsta" and "Down with the white man!"  As soon as he called me racist, I damn near punched his head off his shoulders.  He goes away for three months, and thinks everyone who isn't in his minority is tough shit, and out to screw him, so he waves his racist flag every chance he gets, solely to get attention.  That is the kind of crap that will get me to treat you in a racist fashion, because that's what you want.

[Lingus]

As soon as he called me racist, I damn near punched his head off his shoulders.  He goes away for three months, and thinks everyone who isn't in his minority is tough shit, and out to screw him, so he waves his racist flag every chance he gets, solely to get attention.  That is the kind of crap that will get me to treat you in a racist fashion, because that's what you want.

See, in that case you were basing your judgement of him on his actions. Not the fact that he was black, or even that those actions are typically perceived as stereotypically "black"... it was that he was being an ass to you.