Now I know what to ask the folks for on my birthday! That's if they can find one the day it's released. At $300, it's reasonably priced I'd say:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/09/wii-u-coming-to-america-sunday-november-18
Since I'm mainly a PC/Portable gamer nowadays, I don't plan on getting this system. It looks very nice, though.
At the moment my eyes are elsewhere, on Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Worms Revolution, and Starbound, not to mention the pile of games I haven't touched yet on my computer. I may get the Wii U next year, but it's not likely.
Definitely getting this one. I'll be waiting for the day of Super Smash Bros. 4. I believe this would also be Minecraft's first anniversary.
I am also extremely excited for this system. The system looks quite awesome, and has a ton of really cool looking features. Not to mention that they just announced Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for the Wii U and 3DS (cross platform compatible, and officially confirmed as coming to the US). Gonna be sweet!
There are actually several games for the Wii U that will be released for the 3DS as well, so I won't miss out on all of the fun, I guess.
Monster Hunter? I'm sold.
Damn, I have an extra 12 days to wait.
Well I am really looking forward to it and I'll likely pre order it though I am debating whether or not to get the premium one or not. $80 extra for 32GB, Nintendo Land, the Charging Cradle and also the premium subscription to Nintendo Network (though I really have no idea the benefits of that).
Any thoughts?
Mario, Zelda. Smash Bros. & the other usual suspects will probably let me buy this one again, but not at launch this time.
It sounds terrible overall, but I'll be waiting for the console to be 'modded' to allow some features that won't cause me to burn a hole into my wallet as much. $60 is quite a steep step for games I may not enjoy. I'll enjoy Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Zombie U regardless, as I love Monster Hunter and zombies are just awesome. I purchase the games that can keep my attention for at least a week.
They gave up on preventing it on the Wii, and the 3DS is still strong on its encryption and overall bombardment of attempted exploits being thrown at it, but I think eventually the Wii U will be cracked into and have a Soft, or at least a hard mod with a chip.
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on September 18, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
It sounds terrible overall, but I'll be waiting for the console to be 'modded' to allow some features that won't cause me to burn a hole into my wallet as much. $60 is quite a steep step for games I may not enjoy. I'll enjoy Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Zombie U regardless, as I love Monster Hunter and zombies are just awesome. I purchase the games that can keep my attention for at least a week.
They gave up on preventing it on the Wii, and the 3DS is still strong on its encryption and overall bombardment of attempted exploits being thrown at it, but I think eventually the Wii U will be cracked into and have a Soft, or at least a hard mod with a chip.
For shame.
Quote from: Meiun on September 18, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on September 18, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
It sounds terrible overall, but I'll be waiting for the console to be 'modded' to allow some features that won't cause me to burn a hole into my wallet as much. $60 is quite a steep step for games I may not enjoy. I'll enjoy Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Zombie U regardless, as I love Monster Hunter and zombies are just awesome. I purchase the games that can keep my attention for at least a week.
They gave up on preventing it on the Wii, and the 3DS is still strong on its encryption and overall bombardment of attempted exploits being thrown at it, but I think eventually the Wii U will be cracked into and have a Soft, or at least a hard mod with a chip.
For shame.
A bit is fine. ;)
The Wii was nice, but it was not up to par in terms of Sony and Microsoft, partly due to the processor, which directly affected the second reason, the games possible to be made on it. It's nice to test a game before buying, as Let's Plays and sample clips don't cut it for me in the long run. Don't misinterpret it; the games that I'm interested in are purchased. ;D
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on September 19, 2012, 12:42:49 AM
Quote from: Meiun on September 18, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on September 18, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
It sounds terrible overall, but I'll be waiting for the console to be 'modded' to allow some features that won't cause me to burn a hole into my wallet as much. $60 is quite a steep step for games I may not enjoy. I'll enjoy Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Zombie U regardless, as I love Monster Hunter and zombies are just awesome. I purchase the games that can keep my attention for at least a week.
They gave up on preventing it on the Wii, and the 3DS is still strong on its encryption and overall bombardment of attempted exploits being thrown at it, but I think eventually the Wii U will be cracked into and have a Soft, or at least a hard mod with a chip.
For shame.
A bit is fine. ;)
The Wii was nice, but it was not up to par in terms of Sony and Microsoft, partly due to the processor, which directly affected the second reason, the games possible to be made on it. It's nice to test a game before buying, as Let's Plays and sample clips don't cut it for me in the long run. Don't misinterpret it; the games that I'm interested in are purchased. ;D
Just be glad games aren't $110 ($115 USD) for you.
And seriously, any turd that says that games such as Mario Galaxy, Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros. aren't just as good, if not better, than the games the Sony and Microsoft put out for their system ought to be forced to watch the sequels to Starship Troopers (or some other torturous punishment).
Besides, if you want to play hardcore FPS's and whatnot you should really be playing on a PC (but let's not start up the PC vs Console war here).
All in all, I think that the Wii U, despite the name that is actually starting to grow on me, is going to be a rather excellent console and it does have a fairly impressive launch line up.
Quote from: Matty_Richo on September 19, 2012, 04:40:15 AM
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on September 19, 2012, 12:42:49 AM
Quote from: Meiun on September 18, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on September 18, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
It sounds terrible overall, but I'll be waiting for the console to be 'modded' to allow some features that won't cause me to burn a hole into my wallet as much. $60 is quite a steep step for games I may not enjoy. I'll enjoy Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Zombie U regardless, as I love Monster Hunter and zombies are just awesome. I purchase the games that can keep my attention for at least a week.
They gave up on preventing it on the Wii, and the 3DS is still strong on its encryption and overall bombardment of attempted exploits being thrown at it, but I think eventually the Wii U will be cracked into and have a Soft, or at least a hard mod with a chip.
For shame.
A bit is fine. ;)
The Wii was nice, but it was not up to par in terms of Sony and Microsoft, partly due to the processor, which directly affected the second reason, the games possible to be made on it. It's nice to test a game before buying, as Let's Plays and sample clips don't cut it for me in the long run. Don't misinterpret it; the games that I'm interested in are purchased. ;D
Just be glad games aren't $110 ($115 USD) for you.
And seriously, any turd that says that games such as Mario Galaxy, Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros. aren't just as good, if not better, than the games the Sony and Microsoft put out for their system ought to be forced to watch the sequels to Starship Troopers (or some other torturous punishment).
Besides, if you want to play hardcore FPS's and whatnot you should really be playing on a PC (but let's not start up the PC vs Console war here).
All in all, I think that the Wii U, despite the name that is actually starting to grow on me, is going to be a rather excellent console and it does have a fairly impressive launch line up.
Yeah, some countries have it hard for the actual console price. The conversion and overall difference in the currency for different nearby countries within Europe have it upwards to an equivalent of what would be $700+ for the console itself. I wasn't harping on the games it had, just the games that it could have had set the foundation as a powerful console when it released before the 360 and PS3. If it had many of the awesome first party and third party games Nintendo had exclusively, along with some of the major PS3 and 360 titles it would have been set (That didn't stop it from selling almost twice as much as the 360 and PS3 though in terms of console units).
Anyone else excited?
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/new-super-mario-bros-u-review-the-best-2d-mario-in-decades
Quote from: Scotty on November 15, 2012, 03:25:11 PM
Anyone else excited?
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/new-super-mario-bros-u-review-the-best-2d-mario-in-decades
Hell yeah! I loved the regular wii one (some of the best co-operative fun i've had in ages), and this one looks like a massive upgrade to it. So many improvements, some drastic, and many subtle. But overall it looks friggin phenomenal. I've only seen one or two other reviews on it aside from that one, but they were all equally positive. Can't wait!
There also seems to be a lot of highly positive press/reviews for some of the other launch titles for the system as well (such as Nintendo Land, and Zombie U).
So it's released in the US now. It's kind of sad that I have another 12 days to wait. But has anyone here picked there's up yet? And what games did you get for it?
I don't know if I want it yet. Though granted, I havn't done much research on the Wii-U.
To those who are getting it this Christmas or whenever, lemmie know how you like it!
Some positives. Some negatives:
http://gizmodo.com/5961513/wii-u-review-the-future-is-in-good-hands
The big thing that caught my eye, and isn't all that surprising is the battery life of the controller. Having to recharge it every couple of hours is definitely bound to get annoying.
Quote from: Scotty on November 19, 2012, 07:37:22 AM
Some positives. Some negatives:
http://gizmodo.com/5961513/wii-u-review-the-future-is-in-good-hands
The big thing that caught my eye, and isn't all that surprising is the battery life of the controller. Having to recharge it every couple of hours is definitely bound to get annoying.
Yeah the 3-5 hour battery life certainly isn't ideal. However, Nintendo kind of lighten the load with the long (8 foot, I believe) charging cable so you can have it charging while you play.
Quote from: Scotty on November 19, 2012, 07:37:22 AM
Some positives. Some negatives:
http://gizmodo.com/5961513/wii-u-review-the-future-is-in-good-hands
The big thing that caught my eye, and isn't all that surprising is the battery life of the controller. Having to recharge it every couple of hours is definitely bound to get annoying.
Like what happened with the 3DS, a third party company is likely to release a battery pack for the controller.
I'm certainly going to be trying to get one as soon as I can. Just so that I'm prepared when a Kingdom Hearts (likely, given the history of the games) and Monster Hunter release occurs.
Make sure if you have one already, that you don't interrupt power or internet connectivity (to the best of your ability of course) while updating with the day-one firmware update:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/reports-botched-firmware-update-leading-to-bricked-wii-u-consoles
People are saying that it does take some time to install (1+ hour(s)), so keep your fingers off the router during the time!
I'm thinking of getting a Wii U for Christmas, but the rest of my family wants to wait for the price to drop. I'm not sure how long it will be until it does, because it's probably not going to be as short as the 3DS's price drop.
Quote from: RayRay on November 19, 2012, 12:49:30 PM
I'm thinking of getting a Wii U for Christmas, but the rest of my family wants to wait for the price to drop. I'm not sure how long it will be until it does, because it's probably not going to be as short as the 3DS's price drop.
The 3DS' price drop was due to it's sudden drop in sales, mere months after it was released. If the Wii-U drops nearly as quickly, I will be sorely disappointed. I really think that at this point, it's up to the developers to push out content, in order to prevent that. The up-swing is Nintendo saw what happened with its 3DS sales, knows the reasons, and has hopefully learned its lesson(s).
A reason to wait, if this is a priority for people, a lot of the service which were originally promised (e.g. Netflix) were pushed back to December. It's a bad mark for Nintendo, but it does give customers a good reason to wait. I wouldn't bank on the price going down before Christmas though, as that is when sales for it are going to be the highest so far. If the price drops in the next month and a half, Nintendo is boned.
Another interesting note, people are already tearing apart the console and controller, discovering it has some intense hardware, some of which provides capabilities yet to be tapped into by the current release of games. On top of it all, apparently DIY fixes for the console (not necessarily the controller) are going to be very easy given the physical design of the console: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nintendo+Wii+U+Teardown/11796
Quote from: Scotty on November 19, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: RayRay on November 19, 2012, 12:49:30 PM
I'm thinking of getting a Wii U for Christmas, but the rest of my family wants to wait for the price to drop. I'm not sure how long it will be until it does, because it's probably not going to be as short as the 3DS's price drop.
The 3DS' price drop was due to it's sudden drop in sales, mere months after it was released. If the Wii-U drops nearly as quickly, I will be sorely disappointed. I really think that at this point, it's up to the developers to push out content, in order to prevent that. The up-swing is Nintendo saw what happened with its 3DS sales, knows the reasons, and has hopefully learned its lesson(s).
This ^^
And I think that is why the Wii U started with a relatively low price point to avoid the need for a price drop in the near future. Also when you compare the launch line up of games on the Wii U compared to the 3DS the Wii U absolutely obliterates it. The 3DS had no signature Mario game nor did it have something like Nintendo Land to really show off it's features, all the 3DS really had was Pilotwings, Steel Diver and Street Fighter IV (of which the first to turned out to be rather dull games). The Wii U has 2 great first party games as well as some strong third-party games/ports (Tekken, Scribblenauts, Arkham City, etc.)
So RayRay, if you are going to wait for a significant price drop you'll be waiting a while I think and it may be in your best interest to pick one up soon.
Yeah, I wouldn't count on a Wii U price drop any time soon at all. Like they said, the 3DS only had one so early because sales started off real slow for it, seeing as they had next to no good games anywhere near the systems launch. Wii U on the other hand seems to be off to a fairly strong start. Also (someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong), but I also believe I read somewhere that for the time being Nintendo is selling the console itself at a small loss profit wise, so I doubt they'd take an even bigger one until their manufacturing costs can go down.
I need to look up the library of games it has as of yet. Obviously it'll have the Marios and Zeldas, but I havn't seen the games from other parties yet.
And yeah I agree, the Wii-U is set at a pretty low price given what happened with the 3DS.
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on November 20, 2012, 02:24:32 AM
I need to look up the library of games it has as of yet. Obviously it'll have the Marios and Zeldas, but I havn't seen the games from other parties yet.
And yeah I agree, the Wii-U is set at a pretty low price given what happened with the 3DS.
At the moment the big two games that, from what I've heard, most people with a Wii U have are Nintendo Land and New Super Mario Bros. U.
But I am also considering picking up Tekken on launch day, I'm just waiting for a couple of reviews to come out.
As for the future They have already announced Smash Bros. and Pikmin 3, the latter of which I am extremely excited about. And we know there is a Zelda coming to Wii and there'll be a new 3D Mario game. I'm also hoping that Retro Studios start growing and making a few more games than just one every 3 years or so. I'm also hoping they revive F-Zero as I think it could really benefit from HD and the new tablet.
Well in that case, I'll probably not be able to get a Wii U then. I was really wanting one, but my family doesn't feel tempted to share the pay. I was even wanting to pay as well. (Or unless they are keeping secret and are actually getting one. Christmas is full of surprises...)
Quote from: Meiun on November 19, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
... Also (someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong), but I also believe I read somewhere that for the time being Nintendo is selling the console itself at a small loss profit wise...
That is correct. To make it more reasonably priced, they are actually taking a gamble and lowered the prices below the manufacture costs. Quite frankly, it's one that I would take, given their past with the 3DS. They're banking on developers releasing games/content to compensate for the profit loss. They are promising more games, quicker than the 3DS, but it's still a gamble. The console doesn't support the streaming services (Amazon cloud, Netflix, etc) yet, so they better pick up the slack real quick, or they are in trouble.
Quote from: Scotty on November 20, 2012, 03:28:11 PM
Quote from: Meiun on November 19, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
... Also (someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong), but I also believe I read somewhere that for the time being Nintendo is selling the console itself at a small loss profit wise...
That is correct. To make it more reasonably priced, they are actually taking a gamble and lowered the prices below the manufacture costs. Quite frankly, it's one that I would take, given their past with the 3DS. They're banking on developers releasing games/content to compensate for the profit loss. They are promising more games, quicker than the 3DS, but it's still a gamble. The console doesn't support the streaming services (Amazon cloud, Netflix, etc) yet, so they better pick up the slack real quick, or they are in trouble.
Yep, I honestly think it will work out for them very well. They have a number of great games in the running and launch window games such as Pikmin 3 and Monster Hunter should help sales, and it won't bee too long before the manufacturing cost is reduced for them and by that stage we'll start seeing games such as Zelda and Smash Bros. that will really pick up console sales.
The lack of streaming services for me, personally, isn't a huge deal, and as I am in Australia I doubt I'll even have the chance to use most of them. But I can definitely see why that would be an issue for some people, especially seeing how much Nintendo talked up TVii as a lunch thing and then had to back down.
Also it seems as though you are actually able to download the day one update in the background while you play other games, http://kotaku.com/5962224/you-might-be-able-to-download-the-wii-us-firmware-update-in-the-background?tag=wii-u (http://kotaku.com/5962224/you-might-be-able-to-download-the-wii-us-firmware-update-in-the-background?tag=wii-u)
I thought I read that the streaming services like hulu, netflix, etc. were out now. Could be wrong, but I know they were planned for very close to launch.
Quote from: Meiun on November 23, 2012, 03:38:33 PM
I thought I read that the streaming services like hulu, netflix, etc. were out now. Could be wrong, but I know they were planned for very close to launch.
From what I herd they really wanted to but did not make the dead line.
So has anyone bought one of these XD? Any good games to recommend?
Quote from: Meiun on November 23, 2012, 03:38:33 PM
I thought I read that the streaming services like hulu, netflix, etc. were out now. Could be wrong, but I know they were planned for very close to launch.
They were originally planned for launch day but didn't make it. But I think Hulu has since been released and the Youtube App was released a couple of days ago I think.
Sounds like it's off to a good start. The limit is in production, not sales:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/wii-u-first-week-sales-lag-original-wii-but-better-than-xbox-360-ps3
interesting acticle about the wii u's specs :P if you can believe this that is
http://gamingbolt.com/wii-u-cpu-and-gpu-clock-speeds-revealed-slower-than-ps3360
Well I just picked up my Wii U, I arrived just after the store opened and thankfully it was a school day so there weren't too many others around. I picked up the premium edition (with Nintendo Land) and also New Super Mario Bros. U.
Off to play some games now.
Quote from: venuse on November 29, 2012, 07:03:03 PM
interesting acticle about the wii u's specs :P if you can believe this that is
http://gamingbolt.com/wii-u-cpu-and-gpu-clock-speeds-revealed-slower-than-ps3360
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/why-you-cant-read-too-much-into-the-wii-us-slow-clock-speed
hehe just thought i would stir things up with that article haha. i already know that the numbers arent what make the hardware but the efficiency of the hardware to perform and there are many factors that effect that.
Basing the speed and effectiveness of a processor solely on clock speed or number of cores simply does not work. It always surprises me that everyone continues to base so many comparisons off of those two factors. Clock speed is only one piece of the puzzle. Having a higher clock rate gives you more cycles per second, but that doesn't necessarily mean you can do as much per cycle as another processor. Similarly, you typically get some serious diminishing returns as you increase the number of processors/cores, and whether more of them are beneficial at all depends almost entirely on the software (the majority of software out there today still tends to not benefit much from additional cores).
Meiun is right. Basing performance just on clock speed and cores is not enough. For an an analogy lets say how much stuff we can move from point a to point b is like the amount of data a cpu can process. Having a high clock speed is like having a fast vehicle and having more cores is like having more of them. But we still don't know how much a vehicle could hold. You could have a sports car that's really fast but would have to take many trips. Or a slow 18 wheeler that can do it in 1 trip. Also some cpus handle certain tasks better than other can. Or are more accepting of information given to it in a certain way. Just like how some cars are better for off road and how some cars may be better for small spaces. In other words it matters what the cpu is good at and if it can be used for video games in this case.
But I have to admit that thats not normally the problem as how easy or how much like that cpu is like to other ones. If the code that a cpu runs is like the driver we put in the cars, its better if its easy to teach are drivers how to drive the car. Or even better if are drivers already know. It seemed like in the case of ps3 you had to do more work to teach the driver. Which may have lead to less performance on cross platform games on the ps3.
The only problem with the analogy is that a cpu main job is not to move data but to manipulate it. But all that means is its a more complex job.
So it turns out that I got a Wii U after all. It explains why we were hungry for a little bit. Ever since I opened it, I haven't let go of NintendoLand until this night and my eyes got bloodshot. lol Also finally, a 5-player mode.
Yes, the wii u is pretty grand. But one thing I noticed is the horrendous load times. But everything seems pretty good (the games are quite fun- can't wait untill Pikmin 3 and Monster Hunter 3 in Spring).
A funny thing my family encountered was when creating a mii, you can have the controller photograph you and make a mii based on facial structure, hair, etc. Well it turns out that our wii u hates us and views us as monsters, cause the miis it made were terrifyingly ugly XD
Santa got me the Deluxe Wii U along with NSMBU and Scribblenauts Unlimited. I highly recommend NSMBU if you enjoy 2D platforming with the likes of Super Mario World and Super Mario Bros. 3