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Title: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on November 27, 2009, 01:04:54 PM
QuoteFolding@home is a distributed computing project -- people from throughout the world download and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer takes the project closer to our goals. Folding@home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems millions of times more challenging than previously achieved.
http://folding.stanford.edu/

There is a lot more info on the site but its basically using your PC to help finding out more in the medical field. Also there is a client for the ps3.

Quote from: Meiun on December 04, 2009, 11:14:28 PM
EDIT: Created an official Stick Online team for anyone who wants to participate =] The team number is 175789. Just enter that in the Configuration window under Team Number and youll be in.
Join owr team!

Team info:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=175789

If you still have no idea what I'm talking about watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ1XuOgknuE
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Titan on November 27, 2009, 01:39:08 PM
Dear god I just saw this on another site. Kinda weird.

Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on November 27, 2009, 03:29:37 PM
Quote from: Titan on November 27, 2009, 01:39:08 PM
Dear god I just saw this on another site. Kinda weird.
Ware?

Also here is my profile.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=ARTgames&teamnum=57391
If i added up all i have really done my WU and score would be higher. But i have a new name ever year. I always do it around winter so i can use my PC as a heater also. :P
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Meiun on December 04, 2009, 11:14:28 PM
I actually run this sometimes too, both on my PC and PS3. It is actually a really cool concept. Basically, it allows your computer to dedicate some of it's processing power to essentialy work as a node for a world wide super computer that works to find out all sorts of stuff in the medical field, such as (hopefully one day) cures for diseases, etc. etc. Most people leave their computers on when they arn't using them anyways, so running this just allows you to take advantage of all that unused processing power towards something good.

If anyone does decide to make a Stick Online based team for it let me know and I'd join it.

EDIT: Created an official Stick Online team for anyone who wants to participate =] The team number is 175789. Just enter that in the Configuration window under Team Number and youll be in.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on December 05, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: Meiun on December 04, 2009, 11:14:28 PM
EDIT: Created an official Stick Online team for anyone who wants to participate =] The team number is 175789. Just enter that in the Configuration window under Team Number and youll be in.

Thank you meiun! I try and get another PC on the team.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Mr Pwnage on December 08, 2009, 05:18:39 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on December 05, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: Meiun on December 04, 2009, 11:14:28 PM
EDIT: Created an official Stick Online team for anyone who wants to participate =] The team number is 175789. Just enter that in the Configuration window under Team Number and youll be in.

Thank you meiun! I try and get another PC on the team.
I'm joining.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on December 08, 2009, 05:59:00 PM
Thank you. As of now it says I'm the only team member 0_o. could be slow or I'm not reading it right.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Meiun on December 08, 2009, 11:41:45 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on December 08, 2009, 05:59:00 PM
Thank you. As of now it says I'm the only team member 0_o. could be slow or I'm not reading it right.
No I'm on it as well. I guess it just dosn't register you until you've completed atleast 1 whole work unit (havn't been able to have mine running much recently). I would leave my PS3 on doing it some too but the network setup on campus dosn't allow for more than one device connected per person at once >_>.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Seifer on December 08, 2009, 11:55:56 PM
When I click the link to this site, I get a simple


"Acess Denied" in the top left corner of a blank page.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Seifer on December 09, 2009, 12:04:49 AM
Double post!

I seem to be able to get around it by simply reloading over and over.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Forum on April 17, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Uhm why not edit post instead of double posting  :o I'd join also but for some reason my mind tells me not to because its to complicated i already read everything btw so don't call me an idiot.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: NotoriousM4^ on April 18, 2010, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Forum on April 17, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Uhm why not edit post instead of double posting  :o I'd join also but for some reason my mind tells me not to because its to complicated i already read everything btw so don't call me an idiot.
Because editing a post doesn't bump the whole thread. Duh  :P
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: tehrozzy on April 18, 2010, 06:42:16 PM
Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on April 18, 2010, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Forum on April 17, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Uhm why not edit post instead of double posting  :o I'd join also but for some reason my mind tells me not to because its to complicated i already read everything btw so don't call me an idiot.
Because editing a post doesn't bump the whole thread. Duh  :P
I dont see why he needed to bump the thread. The two posts were 10 minutes apart.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: NotoriousM4^ on April 18, 2010, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: YayForLife on April 18, 2010, 06:42:16 PM
Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on April 18, 2010, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Forum on April 17, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Uhm why not edit post instead of double posting  :o I'd join also but for some reason my mind tells me not to because its to complicated i already read everything btw so don't call me an idiot.
Because editing a post doesn't bump the whole thread. Duh  :P
I dont see why he needed to bump the thread. The two posts were 10 minutes apart.
You know what, I really don't !@#$ING care anymore, nowadays these forums are just about who bumped what and why, it's kinda getting annoying.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Lingus on April 19, 2010, 01:18:51 PM
What the hell? Why are you guys even discussing a double post that happened 5 months ago?
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Meiun on April 19, 2010, 01:28:24 PM
Quote from: Lingus on April 19, 2010, 01:18:51 PM
What the hell? Why are you guys even discussing a double post that happened 5 months ago?
I think it's because I just recently stickied this topic. Either way, doesn't really matter. Back on topic please people.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: bubba on April 19, 2010, 07:31:59 PM
Wastes precious CPU cycles, what has science ever done for me anyway?
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Lingus on April 19, 2010, 07:42:29 PM
Doesn't it give priority to anything you are doing? It only uses idle processing time? But, what the down side to that would be is that it could potentially burn your cpu out sooner than normal. In that sense it's even worse than taking up processing cycles. It's costing you money because you have to replace your computer sooner.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on April 19, 2010, 07:51:21 PM
Lingus have you used it? That's nothing to worry about. But i understand your concern.

Its not going to make your PC die any faster then it will go obsolete. Or in other words your comp will be too old to do anything before this makes your PC die. Its no worse then watching flash video. Its actually less intensive than it. The priority on this is set to "low" on windoes. So the effect on your other apps will be nil. I have played codmw2 with it running and had no performance hits. I have been running this for years off and on with no problems. This will not do anything your PC was not built to do.

This program is not prime 95 ware it will max out your CPU and make your fans run at max unless you tell it to (by default its not, but you can go there if you want to). Non the less I'm sure your extra cycles are going to a better cause then what your doing on your PC when your not using it or doing simple stuff.

Now i will suggest not to run this on a laptop for batterylife.

The GPU client does make your GPU work hard but still the same apples like the CPU.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Lingus on April 19, 2010, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on April 19, 2010, 07:51:21 PMThis program is not prime 95 ware it will max out your CPU and make your fans run at max unless you tell it to (by default its not, but you can go there if you want to).
That's good to know. Though still, even if it's not at full capacity, it's still making the CPU run more than if I were to not run it. And even though it's not at max, it's still constant 24/7, correct? But yea I guess something else on the computer will probably fail first anyways.

And no I haven't used this yet.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on April 19, 2010, 08:24:14 PM
Check it out and help get so up on rankings. Its easy to take off if you don't like it. BTW i use the "Console client". I just delete the folder and its gone for good.

Hell if you got an old extra PC laying around put it to work and don't use your main one.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Lingus on April 19, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
Also didn't think about this, but how much extra electricity do you think your computer uses over time by having the CPU and fan running that bit extra? I'm sure it's not much, but I'm really cost concious so I tend to think of those things.

Yea, I might try it out.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Meiun on April 19, 2010, 09:10:07 PM
The idea is generaly that you use the program when you are not at your computer, so in that case you don't really need to worry about priority or it using up your processing power that would otherwise be used for other programs (although I do believe it does try to take low priority when doing other stuff anyways). Other than that, whether it is worth it really comes down to how stingy you are I guess. The way I see it, it is a bigger waste to have millions of computers all around the world sitting there idle, wasting precious computing/processing potential when they could instead be used for something good. I suppose if you really want to get technical, leaving your processor busy all the time could slightly shorten its lifespan. But as long as your computer is well ventilated and dosnt get super hot it probly won't have that huge an impact. What kills the cpu is really more in being exposed to excess heat for extended periods of time, not so much how many total cycles it goes through/"use" it gets.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on April 19, 2010, 09:48:56 PM
Quote from: Lingus on April 19, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
Also didn't think about this, but how much extra electricity do you think your computer uses over time by having the CPU and fan running that bit extra? I'm sure it's not much, but I'm really cost concious so I tend to think of those things.
yeah that's true. They thought of that also. Its nothing to worry about as i said. I think a cure to Altimers or the other stuff is worth it. But it is your own PC an ill respect that.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Infection on April 22, 2010, 07:40:23 PM
I'd like to say that I've joined it, but it won't show my name until I've completed a WU (Work Unit)
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Turkey on April 26, 2010, 02:33:49 AM
So I just type 175789 for the team number in the config, and I'm on the team?
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Meiun on April 26, 2010, 03:03:50 AM
Quote from: Turkey on April 26, 2010, 02:33:49 AM
So I just type 175789 for the team number in the config, and I'm on the team?
Yup, simple as that.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Lucifer on April 26, 2010, 11:45:40 PM
I'll be sure to leave it running, I haven't seen it effect anything I've done so far, call of duty runs the same as before.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Trent on May 16, 2010, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: Lingus on April 19, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
I'm sure it's not much, but I'm really cost concious

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Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Scotty on May 16, 2010, 07:12:56 PM
I've been using World Community Grid (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/) since well before Folding@Home was even conceptualized, and my whole take on this, is very similar to Meiun's.  Imagine to yourself, if you will, how many personal computers are run 24/7 by folks who don't care to turn them off at night, or even how many have them on, and leave them on throughout the day when only spending a fraction of that time actually using it.  What better way to utilize them, than to turn them into a network of work-horses and get them to do collective computing for organizations who need as much computing power as possible.  I haven't ever noticed any downsides to WCG when running it, and never really noticed any differences with connection speeds or anything.  I say it's worth it, and the loss of processor life due to it is likely negligible.  You'll more than likely have something else kill your computer well before the program drains it.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Scotty on May 20, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
Double Post:  So I'm looking over the website for Folding@Home and honestly, I'm not impressed at all.  The biggest thing I liked about World Community Grid (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/) is that I could go to the website and view all sorts of statistics on what exact projects I've contributed to, what my team has contributed to, who's the biggest contributors, how long everyone has been running the app for, working units, everything (literally, it has everything you would ever want to know about it).  Folding at home has nothing more than individual stats and a few boring collective stats like time ran for teams and such.  It doesn't really break down to show you what you're contributing to.  For instance, on World Community Grid (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/) I notice that since I re-instated my client, my largest contributions are:


                            Points       Results        Total
Project                           Generated    Returned       Run Time (y:d:h:m:s)

Help Conquer Cancer               4,408        15             0:001:12:28:27   
Human Proteome Folding - Phase 2  2,396        4              0:000:19:43:42
FightAIDS@Home                    2,591        4              0:000:23:56:48


From there I can find further information about each project that I've contributed to, and what they do.  I'm still in favor of World Community Grid (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/), although, I will not bash anyone who goes with one or the other, as long as they do something!  I just find World Community Grid (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/) more rewarding than Folding@Home to use.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on May 20, 2010, 01:14:11 AM
Dose it really matter Scotty which one you use? Your still helping people eather way. Pick what ever you want to be a part of. Hell be a member of more than one if you want. No one stopping you.

If you don't want to help with eather of these, there is a wiki page with a lot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Meiun on May 20, 2010, 01:46:08 AM
I think it's more important that they are actually doing something good rather than how awesome their site is at filling you in about the specifics of how your efforts are being utilized. Folding home from what I understand has the potential to help find a cure for something too. While both seem good, to me, finding cures is infinitely more important than just finding better ways to treat something incurable. But both are obviously still really good things to contribute to.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Scotty on May 20, 2010, 05:01:00 PM
Ahem...

Quote from: Scotty on May 20, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
I'm still in favor of World Community Grid (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/), although, I will not bash anyone who goes with one or the other, as long as they do something!  I just find World Community Grid (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/) more rewarding than Folding@Home to use.

Again, I will say it, I don't care, as long as you do something.  I just like to know what my computer is being used for.  Hell, I'm running both at the moment (look at Stick Online's team stats page and guess which one I am).  If Folding@Home blows your hair back, sweet!  I just like to see what my computer is being used for instead of getting a useless graphic thrown in my face hoping I'm not contributing to Stanford's drug addiction or something equally preposterous to accuse.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on May 20, 2010, 05:15:47 PM
Your not contributing to there drug addiction. What they are doing is in the name of the app. (Aka folding, protein folding) If you head to there FAQ they say. http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/FoldingFAQ.pdf
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: bubba on June 05, 2010, 02:05:01 AM
What makes me worry the most about this application is the fact Google supports it.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: ARTgames on June 05, 2010, 09:01:19 AM
And? I have no idea what you mean.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Lucifer on June 05, 2010, 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on June 05, 2010, 09:01:19 AM
And? I have no idea what you mean.
Nobody has any idea what the !@#$ Daru means, haha, ignore him.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: bubba on October 02, 2010, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on June 05, 2010, 09:01:19 AM
And? I have no idea what you mean.
Because Google REALLY wants to target customers as much as they can, they like to look at your PC and see what you like to do so they know who the target audience is!
Being able to retrieve data from your PC directly is a pretty common google tactic (try installing one of their many applications :]), now I don't believe F@N does this, but it's only a matter of time before someone does do this, the promise if helping someone if you promise to reveal a little information about yourself, the abusement of charity if you ask me.
Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Loganvz123 on October 31, 2011, 04:19:40 AM
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Title: Re: Folding@home
Post by: Dan on May 22, 2016, 02:46:22 AM
Just signed up for this as Crimzen, joined our team (Which has 1,299,772 points, ranked 5,900 something i believe) and will be doing this from now on!