No, its not a topic for a nerf of it, but i wonder if no matter your str, weapon, or anything, if we only do 3 damage to the sg. doesn't matter level, str, or weapon. sg just has that much def to only take 3 damage, and it takes just a certain amount of hits to kill it. what do you guys think?
3 and a half hours of bullshit tell me yes
This is definitely a no.
I am with NotoriousM4 because it depends on how many people you have helping like sometimes it takes an hour and some times it takes 3 and a half hours
Deffinatly no.
I can solo a SG in 1 hour. Can you? Me and my insane strength rest our case.
i'm not sure how long it takes me to solo an sg, but my 26 str would sure take me a long time. 2 hours plus last night of constantly hitting it, i wouldn't want to solo one.
yeh but i have 76str and it still takes ages
nah. its cool now.
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Deffinatly no.
I can solo a SG in 1 hour. Can you? Me and my insane strength rest our case.
No I cannot. I say you lie! My strength is slightly less then yours, but I've tried killing it with 6 people and it still took an hour. I'm sure all of our strength combined pwnt yours. So, lies.
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Dual Penetrations? Damn, I always knew those wings made people horny.
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Stam regain makes a difference... Just saying... If Aqua had Slasher/Spire/IS, his damage total would compare with +(lll_-)+ for the sake that Aqua wouldn't ever really have to sit down. I think that Seifer could solo a SG in about an hour.
Also, I don't think that the SG reduces all damage to 5. A scythe/WH with just 25 strength maybe, but not a GS with 25 str.
~Aqua
Quote from: JoEL on May 24, 2010, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
Quote from: Seifer on May 24, 2010, 07:58:51 AM
Quote from: JoEL on May 24, 2010, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
Quote from: JoEL on May 24, 2010, 08:56:14 AM
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Quote from: JoEL on May 24, 2010, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
Buy/take some ham and ask it.
(http://www.thefoodchart.com/images/ham.jpg)
Do you even look at the dates when these posts where made? And what a useless post, I mean come on, do you have any idea how stupid you just made yourself look?
~Looperpuck
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Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
My guess is Hamsterpants.
Or Hambone.
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Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
My guess is Hamsterpants.
Or Hambone.
Yes I realised who he was referring to, but I don't understand how it's relevent. What does ham know that I don't?
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Quote from: JoEL on May 24, 2010, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
My guess is Hamsterpants.
Or Hambone.
Yes I realised who he was referring to, but I don't understand how it's relevent. What does ham know that I don't?
He means Ham knows how powerful Seifer is.
Quote from: EpicPhailure on June 09, 2010, 06:39:39 PM
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Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
My guess is Hamsterpants.
Or Hambone.
Yes I realised who he was referring to, but I don't understand how it's relevent. What does ham know that I don't?
He means Ham knows how powerful Seifer is.
How?
Quote from: JoEL on June 10, 2010, 12:53:53 AM
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Quote from: JoEL on June 09, 2010, 05:21:54 AM
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Quote from: JoEL on May 24, 2010, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
My guess is Hamsterpants.
Or Hambone.
Yes I realised who he was referring to, but I don't understand how it's relevent. What does ham know that I don't?
He means Ham knows how powerful Seifer is.
How?
By sitting there and watching Seifer solo a SG by himself without contributing with a single attack of course! You do the same for others right? ;D
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Quote from: JoEL on May 24, 2010, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
My guess is Hamsterpants.
Or Hambone.
Yes I realised who he was referring to, but I don't understand how it's relevent. What does ham know that I don't?
He means Ham knows how powerful Seifer is.
How?
By sitting there and watching Seifer solo a SG by himself without contributing with a single attack of course! You do the same for others right? ;D
Close enough. Me and Ham killed an SG together in around an Hour and 20 Minutes. Considering I do 4-5x as much DPS as hambone does, I did most of the work. Also consider that because Ham was there, I would take many opportunities to /afk so to speak. I ofcourse did not spend 1 entire hour doing nothing but wacking an SG. I was probably only working at 70-80% of my full potential.
Quote from: Seifer on June 13, 2010, 01:28:52 AM
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Quote from: JoEL on June 09, 2010, 05:21:54 AM
Quote from: Chaos on June 09, 2010, 12:16:06 AM
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Quote from: JoEL on May 24, 2010, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 10:59:11 PM
I also have an epic weapon and a GM hat. This means better stam regen and better dps.
Still doubt you output as much dps as 6 people would.
Ask Ham
What?
My guess is Hamsterpants.
Or Hambone.
Yes I realised who he was referring to, but I don't understand how it's relevent. What does ham know that I don't?
He means Ham knows how powerful Seifer is.
How?
By sitting there and watching Seifer solo a SG by himself without contributing with a single attack of course! You do the same for others right? ;D
Close enough. Me and Ham killed an SG together in around an Hour and 20 Minutes. Considering I do 4-5x as much DPS as hambone does, I did most of the work. Also consider that because Ham was there, I would take many opportunities to /afk so to speak. I ofcourse did not spend 1 entire hour doing nothing but wacking an SG. I was probably only working at 70-80% of my full potential.
The girls want to be with you and the guys want to be you.
i dont like the idea it completely changes how the game has been built and sg is meant to be a challenge anyway its not meant to be easy
did you even read it? its not an idea, it was a question.
Quote from: DivineLegend on June 13, 2010, 04:22:26 PM
did you even read it? its not an idea, it was a question.
I like spaghetti with MEAT BALLS!
you like any balls don't ya scotty? especially meaty ones
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Deffinatly no.
I can solo a SG in 1 hour. Can you? Me and my insane strength rest our case.
Two things about this. This would not prove that any normal player does any more than 3 damage to an SG. It only proves that if you have very high damage that you potentially do more than 3 damage. The other thing is that it doesn't even prove that Seifer does more than 3 damage. It only proves that he can kill an SG much faster than other people. Which could just mean that he has very high stamina and/or stamina regen and/or low stamina usage on his weapon.
What would prove it is if Seifer solo'd an SG with both his high powered GM weapon, and the lowest stam usage fastest hit rate weapon he has (say, the katana for instance). If he kills the SG faster with his GM weapon, he's more than likely doing much more damage. If he kills it faster with the katana it's because the damage is the same (ie 3) but he had much less down time due to stamina. Theoretically that is...
go go seif
I support 100%!! :o
Quote from: Forum on June 14, 2010, 05:43:36 PM
I support 100%!! :o
wtf are you supporting? Read the topic.
Quote from: Lingus on June 14, 2010, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Deffinatly no.
I can solo a SG in 1 hour. Can you? Me and my insane strength rest our case.
Two things about this. This would not prove that any normal player does any more than 3 damage to an SG. It only proves that if you have very high damage that you potentially do more than 3 damage. The other thing is that it doesn't even prove that Seifer does more than 3 damage. It only proves that he can kill an SG much faster than other people. Which could just mean that he has very high stamina and/or stamina regen and/or low stamina usage on his weapon.
What would prove it is if Seifer solo'd an SG with both his high powered GM weapon, and the lowest stam usage fastest hit rate weapon he has (say, the katana for instance). If he kills the SG faster with his GM weapon, he's more than likely doing much more damage. If he kills it faster with the katana it's because the damage is the same (ie 3) but he had much less down time due to stamina. Theoretically that is...
My slasher is very fast and heavy on stam. If it only did 3 per hit, it would take muchh longer, trust me.
Quote from: Seifer on June 14, 2010, 11:43:43 PM
Quote from: Lingus on June 14, 2010, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Deffinatly no.
I can solo a SG in 1 hour. Can you? Me and my insane strength rest our case.
Two things about this. This would not prove that any normal player does any more than 3 damage to an SG. It only proves that if you have very high damage that you potentially do more than 3 damage. The other thing is that it doesn't even prove that Seifer does more than 3 damage. It only proves that he can kill an SG much faster than other people. Which could just mean that he has very high stamina and/or stamina regen and/or low stamina usage on his weapon.
What would prove it is if Seifer solo'd an SG with both his high powered GM weapon, and the lowest stam usage fastest hit rate weapon he has (say, the katana for instance). If he kills the SG faster with his GM weapon, he's more than likely doing much more damage. If he kills it faster with the katana it's because the damage is the same (ie 3) but he had much less down time due to stamina. Theoretically that is...
My slasher is very fast and heavy on stam. If it only did 3 per hit, it would take muchh longer, trust me.
Heavy on stam? It does slightly less damage then the GS yet a lot faster. It also uses 24 stam ( I think ) as apposed to the 30 a GS does. Plus I'm sure your godly helm would improve your stam or stam regeneration surely.
Quote from: Seifer on June 14, 2010, 11:43:43 PMMy slasher is very fast and heavy on stam. If it only did 3 per hit, it would take muchh longer, trust me.
You're probably right. I'm guessing you do more than 3 damage. But the speed of your weapon and your overall stats (stam/regen and str) probably have a good amount to do with it too. I don't doubt that there's a certain percentage of people that do 3 damage to the SG
Quote from: JoEL on June 14, 2010, 11:54:03 PM
Quote from: Seifer on June 14, 2010, 11:43:43 PM
Quote from: Lingus on June 14, 2010, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Deffinatly no.
I can solo a SG in 1 hour. Can you? Me and my insane strength rest our case.
Two things about this. This would not prove that any normal player does any more than 3 damage to an SG. It only proves that if you have very high damage that you potentially do more than 3 damage. The other thing is that it doesn't even prove that Seifer does more than 3 damage. It only proves that he can kill an SG much faster than other people. Which could just mean that he has very high stamina and/or stamina regen and/or low stamina usage on his weapon.
What would prove it is if Seifer solo'd an SG with both his high powered GM weapon, and the lowest stam usage fastest hit rate weapon he has (say, the katana for instance). If he kills the SG faster with his GM weapon, he's more than likely doing much more damage. If he kills it faster with the katana it's because the damage is the same (ie 3) but he had much less down time due to stamina. Theoretically that is...
My slasher is very fast and heavy on stam. If it only did 3 per hit, it would take muchh longer, trust me.
Heavy on stam? It does slightly less damage then the GS yet a lot faster. It also uses 24 stam ( I think ) as apposed to the 30 a GS does. Plus I'm sure your godly helm would improve your stam or stam regeneration surely.
Seifer has a modified slasher that does close to IS damage and uses less stam. Called the Hyperion I think.
Quote from: 11clock on June 16, 2010, 07:13:01 PM
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Quote from: Lingus on June 14, 2010, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Seifer on May 23, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Deffinatly no.
I can solo a SG in 1 hour. Can you? Me and my insane strength rest our case.
Two things about this. This would not prove that any normal player does any more than 3 damage to an SG. It only proves that if you have very high damage that you potentially do more than 3 damage. The other thing is that it doesn't even prove that Seifer does more than 3 damage. It only proves that he can kill an SG much faster than other people. Which could just mean that he has very high stamina and/or stamina regen and/or low stamina usage on his weapon.
What would prove it is if Seifer solo'd an SG with both his high powered GM weapon, and the lowest stam usage fastest hit rate weapon he has (say, the katana for instance). If he kills the SG faster with his GM weapon, he's more than likely doing much more damage. If he kills it faster with the katana it's because the damage is the same (ie 3) but he had much less down time due to stamina. Theoretically that is...
My slasher is very fast and heavy on stam. If it only did 3 per hit, it would take muchh longer, trust me.
Heavy on stam? It does slightly less damage then the GS yet a lot faster. It also uses 24 stam ( I think ) as apposed to the 30 a GS does. Plus I'm sure your godly helm would improve your stam or stam regeneration surely.
Seifer has a modified slasher that does close to IS damage and uses less stam. Called the Hyperion I think.
LOL, well that'd explain that.
It's settled then. SG is 255 def and 15,000 hp.