I really don't get how a lot of people find Facebook addicting. I try to go on as much as others and I just can't, it's just too boring! I'd rather do something that's actually fun. Farmville, bleh...
THANK YOU!
Why? All he did was come to stick online forums to complain about another website.
Quote from: 11clock on June 15, 2010, 04:19:30 PM
I really don't get how a lot of people find Facebook addicting. I try to go on as much as others and I just can't, it's just too boring! I'd rather do something that's actually fun. Farmville, bleh...
Facebook =/= Farmville
I see nothing wrong with Facebook. I see plenty wrong with the people who are somehow addicted to it, however. Why you would WANT to try to go on it as much as the stupid people who use it mystifies me.
What the hell is the point of this topic?
To answer both Art and Chaos, this is clearly a rant topic. I believe that's allowed every once in a while. And Facebook is certainly something to rant about...
Quote from: Lingus on June 15, 2010, 06:11:24 PM
To answer both Art and Chaos, this is clearly a rant topic. I believe that's allowed every once in a while.
I don't think so. Maybe if we had a rant topic ill change my mind...
Facebook clearly has its uses, and it is quite good at what it does.
It is just the people who use it too much.
Rant about what? In what way does the other people's obsession with facebook affect you? And if it doesn't, why do you even care? It's none of your business if that's what other people want to waste their time on. Go do something YOU enjoy.
Quote from: ARTgames on June 15, 2010, 06:18:44 PM
Quote from: Lingus on June 15, 2010, 06:11:24 PM
To answer both Art and Chaos, this is clearly a rant topic. I believe that's allowed every once in a while.
I don't think so. Maybe if we had a rant topic ill change my mind...
This was supposed to be a rant topic, yes. We should be allowed to have these.
In my opinion, Facebook is alright, but the people who are addicted to it I don't understand. What's so addicting about it? The games I find bleh and there isn't really that much to do. I myself would much rather do something else in my free time than to go on Facebook.
It's because they probably have no idea about what's beyond flash browser games.
Quote from: Chaos on June 15, 2010, 06:49:47 PM
Rant about what? In what way does the other people's obsession with facebook affect you? And if it doesn't, why do you even care? It's none of your business if that's what other people want to waste their time on. Go do something YOU enjoy.
But Chaos, you miss the point. It DOES affect me because they don't stop talking about it. Everyone I meet asks me if I'm on Facebook and when I say "No" they keep telling me I should join. It's as if they can't communicate with me if I'm not on Facebook. I have a phone and I have email. Use them. I'm not joining Facebook.
Trust me, I wouldn't care if this were just a matter of people being addicted to something. As long as they don't tell me about it, or tell me I should become addicted to it, then I don't care what they do.
Well...people who play farmville and other facebook apps are retarded lifeless skanks. Assuming you pointing out the fact more people are more involved in facebook than others...it all just comes down to the fact more people have social lives than others...and the fact the others actually make use of facebook for getting daily tasks arranged/accomplished. I honestly can't say I can refer to what you all are talking about b/c i just use facebook as a beneficiary and fun social networking tool...as all of my friends do as well...so unless your making a complaint about how the dumbasses on your friends list choose to use facebook, there is no real point in "ranting" about this at all.
Quote from: Lingus on June 15, 2010, 08:49:54 PM
Quote from: Chaos on June 15, 2010, 06:49:47 PM
Rant about what? In what way does the other people's obsession with facebook affect you? And if it doesn't, why do you even care? It's none of your business if that's what other people want to waste their time on. Go do something YOU enjoy.
But Chaos, you miss the point. It DOES affect me because they don't stop talking about it. Everyone I meet asks me if I'm on Facebook and when I say "No" they keep telling me I should join. It's as if they can't communicate with me if I'm not on Facebook. I have a phone and I have email. Use them. I'm not joining Facebook.
Trust me, I wouldn't care if this were just a matter of people being addicted to something. As long as they don't tell me about it, or tell me I should become addicted to it, then I don't care what they do.
I don't really understand where your resistance comes from... it sorta sounds like you just don't want to join it because everyone else is using it.
Obviously you don't have to join, but its ridiculous to hate on Facebook because others find it as a perfect tool for communicating. It makes it so much easier, and that is why people would want you to join along... though I can understand getting annoyed from people bugging you about it. Fair enough. Just I don't see why you should be that bugged, heh.
Quote from: Lingus on June 15, 2010, 08:49:54 PM
Quote from: Chaos on June 15, 2010, 06:49:47 PM
Rant about what? In what way does the other people's obsession with facebook affect you? And if it doesn't, why do you even care? It's none of your business if that's what other people want to waste their time on. Go do something YOU enjoy.
But Chaos, you miss the point. It DOES affect me because they don't stop talking about it. Everyone I meet asks me if I'm on Facebook and when I say "No" they keep telling me I should join. It's as if they can't communicate with me if I'm not on Facebook. I have a phone and I have email. Use them. I'm not joining Facebook.
Trust me, I wouldn't care if this were just a matter of people being addicted to something. As long as they don't tell me about it, or tell me I should become addicted to it, then I don't care what they do.
Now wait a minute. Is this a topic ranting about people being addicted to facebook, or people using it in general? Pick your story and stick with it. Being addicted to facebook and using facebook are two completely different things, and someone using it and suggesting that you use it is not the same thing as being addicted to it either. It sounds more like YOU missed the point...
The people "addicted" to facebook aren't addicted to playing some stupid games on it, they are addicted to the social networking aspect of it. Staying in contact with friends, chatting, writing on walls, changing status updates, commenting on other peoples status's, liking or disliking things, joining groups.
Your right Seifer but there are people who are addicted to farmville. People get really obligated when there other people they know playing it and they have to give them a cow or something to be nice to eatch other and it just gets into a loop.
Want to know what farmville is? A game for people who have never played games before. People who are non-gamers, but of course, everyones really a gamer. They just have always scoffed at it. So when presented with a game, they get hooked like any of us, except the game their hooked on is such a simple and pathetic one.
Quote from: Chaos on June 15, 2010, 10:32:25 PMNow wait a minute. Is this a topic ranting about people being addicted to facebook, or people using it in general? Pick your story and stick with it. Being addicted to facebook and using facebook are two completely different things, and someone using it and suggesting that you use it is not the same thing as being addicted to it either. It sounds more like YOU missed the point...
The people I'm talking about ARE "addicted" to it in the sense that they are constantly on it. I only get the "come on you have to join" from those kinds of people. People who use it in moderation don't give me that... So yes, I am on topic.
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on June 15, 2010, 10:19:38 PM
I don't really understand where your resistance comes from... it sorta sounds like you just don't want to join it because everyone else is using it.
Obviously you don't have to join, but its ridiculous to hate on Facebook because others find it as a perfect tool for communicating. It makes it so much easier, and that is why people would want you to join along... though I can understand getting annoyed from people bugging you about it. Fair enough. Just I don't see why you should be that bugged, heh.
Well, it's something that I don't really want to use but is becoming more and more a "necessity" to keep in communication with certain people or groups. I find it to be yet another thing to have to keep up with. I already have an email system that I like using. I don't want to have to sign up for something else that does much the same thing (yes, I understand there are a lot more features involved in Facebook than there are with email, but it accomplishes much the same thing: communication.) The fact that there are a good number of people that have decided to use Facebook as their main means of communication just makes it frustrating for me because I personally do not want to use it.
I also really don't like the lack of security on Facebook and feel at this point that if I were to sign up for it I would be hesitant to even post anything. I don't want everyone on the internet being able to read my personal correspondence. That's why I have email. Because it's private. I decide who gets to read it, even down to the detail of deciding if those people who I have sent the email to can see who else I sent it to (ie BCC). You don't really get that with Facebook as far as I know, or if you do I understand that the privacy settings are very difficult to figure out.
In any case, I have my reasons for not liking Facebook. I don't see why it's a big deal that I don't like it...
I just graduated from my senior year at high school, but I can say how much of a facebook generation it was. That is what it was always about.
What was really funny though, for the first half of the year, our school went through a farmville craze. Literally everyone was playing it all the time, but it died out after Christmas I believe, and now no one plays. Oh fads...
I use facebook regularly and honestly can't really seem to find what annoys everyone so much about it. Clearly for some reason, people can get addicted, and people that spend more time on facebook instead of actually socializing are admittedly annoying. But if I want to log on for 10 minutes a couple of times a day to see what's happening in the lives of various people, tell someone happy birthday, and have a chat conversation with my buddy, then I don't really see what the big deal is.
Nonetheless, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Quote from: LeGuy on June 16, 2010, 03:02:39 PM
I use facebook regularly and honestly can't really seem to find what annoys everyone so much about it. Clearly for some reason, people can get addicted, and people that spend more time on facebook instead of actually socializing are admittedly annoying. But if I want to log on for 10 minutes a couple of times a day to see what's happening in the lives of various people, tell someone happy birthday, and have a chat conversation with my buddy, then I don't really see what the big deal is.
Nonetheless, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I don't have a problem with you doing that... I don't think anyone really does. I can't speak for others that have an issue with Facebook, but my problem would come in if I were in your group of friends and you chose to post about a party (for instance) on your Facebook account in order to inform everyone about it and then didn't tell me even though you know I'm not on Facebook. It's things like that that would bug me. Is it that difficult to create an evite or just mass email... or hell maybe even call me to tell me about it? Yes, I understand a lot of people are on Facebook, but it's inconsiderate to assume everyone is, or to ignore people who aren't, or to have the attitude of "join or be left out". (btw, not saying you would do this, just trying to answer the question of "what the big deal is" to me at least.)
Quote from: Seifer on June 16, 2010, 07:44:42 AM
The people "addicted" to facebook aren't addicted to playing some stupid games on it, they are addicted to the social networking aspect of it. Staying in contact with friends, chatting, writing on walls, changing status updates, commenting on other peoples status's, liking or disliking things, joining groups.
Well that's not always true, I know people who are addicted to Facebook and spend half their life playing the stupid games on there, and half the time doing social stuff. I myself check my Facebook maybe twice a day, but I don't find the games on there intriguing enough to play them endlessly. That's what L4D2 is for :)
FB is better than that Twitter crap though, aye? ;D
People socialize all the time, how is this any different?
and why should we care? lol
I generally just use it to chat and leave it open the same way one would leave Steam, MSN, or any other messenger open, since more people are on Facebook than the other services. Of course, it's also a good way to learn interesting things about people (although many of the things are just lies/"bandwagoning"), and to put a face to a name (or vice versa if you have a lot of time on your hands).
Of course, it's understandable that some people don't WANT people to hear about them. I for one like keeping my privacy settings pretty strict.
Really the only thing good about facebook is being able to keep up with the lives of people whom you consider important in your life.
Since 10 (6 being family) of the people in my friends list were people I consider worth talking to, and the other 190 or whatever were just random jackoffs from my school that repeated the same old stuff like "BORED TXT ME" or "HOLLA AT YO BRO FOOS" and eventually I figured "!@#$ this, the only people worth talking to, I can just text anyways."
tl;dr : experienced facebook, deleted it cause my phone and msn serves a better job at keeping in touch with those who aren't !@#$ing stupid.
Quote from: Snakeman on June 18, 2010, 11:09:55 PM
Really the only thing good about facebook is being able to keep up with the lives of people whom you consider important in your life.
Since 10 (6 being family) of the people in my friends list were people I consider worth talking to, and the other 190 or whatever were just random jackoffs from my school that repeated the same old stuff like "BORED TXT ME" or "HOLLA AT YO BRO FOOS" and eventually I figured "!@#$ this, the only people worth talking to, I can just text anyways."
tl;dr : experienced facebook, deleted it cause my phone and msn serves a better job at keeping in touch with those who aren't !@#$ing stupid.
That is true. I'm considering just deleting half the people on my friend's list because some of them annoy the living hell out of me. Like the ones from my graduating class who only post things about their new baby(picture, status, videos) I hate kids, I don't really care to see their spawn...
And then there's the girl who's been dating her BF for a year but has only seen him
4 months out of the year(he's in the marines) and EVERY status is about how much she loves him, how much she misses him, how much she hates him when they fight, how much she wants to marry him... It's technically been 4 months... get over yourself... *barf*.
Then like Snake mentioned, the ones who are like "Don't have anything to do tonight! TXT ME!!". Is it really that hard to entertain yourself for ONE NIGHT?
Then there's the people constantly sending me invites to mafia wars, farmville, yoville, etc. I play real games.
K, done with my obnoxious people rant. :)
But I do like Facebook, because I really don't have any IRL friends who use MSN or steam cause let's face it, they're mostly girly-girls who aren't the most internet savvy people in the world. So they're on FB a lot and I can catch them on there.
Quote from: Seifer on June 16, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
Want to know what farmville is? A game for people who have never played games before. People who are non-gamers, but of course, everyones really a gamer. They just have always scoffed at it. So when presented with a game, they get hooked like any of us, except the game their hooked on is such a simple and pathetic one.
Farmville is a casual game. It's aimed at a completely different audience. Labeling this audience as "never played games before," is widely inaccurate. They find it "fun" for different reasons, which are opposite to other "hardcore" gamers. Hence explaining how this rant began.
Quote from: DarkTrinity on June 19, 2010, 12:35:08 PM
the ones who are like "Don't have anything to do tonight! TXT ME!!". Is it really that hard to entertain yourself for ONE NIGHT?
Shut your face.
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OT: I'm a daily facebook user, and I hardly EVER play games on it. I go on it for the social networking aspect, it's just a different way to communicate with friends.
Quote from: Jake on June 20, 2010, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: DarkTrinity on June 19, 2010, 12:35:08 PM
the ones who are like "Don't have anything to do tonight! TXT ME!!". Is it really that hard to entertain yourself for ONE NIGHT?
Shut your face.
Lol, I don't recall ever seeing that as your status message. But I have people on my friends list who post that like 2-3 times a week... x.x
Being that I work in an office that provides social networking tools to help our customers with their work, I am somewhat biased towards my opinions of tools like Facebook. The reason for why
I use it are as follows:
- It acts as a central hub for information. Take bands for instance. Instead of doing numerous wiki searches to see when a band is coming out with their new album, if they are on Facebook, they're sure to post about it there. Same applies for friends.
- It's easy to moderate information. For instance, I have an annoying cousin who joins every single group that relates to the "Like this to see this picture.", as well as every other group he can find, and that's all I ever see for his updates. I can easily block him (vice causing the immature "Why'd you remove me" repercussion for removing him from my friends list entirely). Same goes for those annoying Farmville games and such, I can easily block all Farmville (or any other game's) updates and never see them again.
- It's quick and easy. I'm not much for micro-blogging, as all I get from it are partial conversations (similar to catching a text message mid conversation). This allows you to go a bit more in-depth than micro-blogging. I'm also not much for full-on blogging. I just don't have the patience to sit down and write up an in-depth post about whatever is going on in my life, proof-read it for typos, grammatical errors, etc... This is a nice medium between the two.
- The privacy has gotten a little better. A couple of weeks ago they made a few quick functionality boosts to improve their permissions settings. Seems like they caught enough bad press to finally get pressured into getting back to simplicity.
- They do an amazing job at inventing a web application. This is more or less my web developer side shining through, but their application has so many moving parts, it's sickening to try and conceive how they do it, between the chat functionality, live updating, sure, it's all been done before across different applications, but for a single developer to sit there and try to think of how they did it all is hella overwhelming, even more so when the stability of the application is spot on (seemingly from the customer's standpoint at least).
And of course, there are dislikes, some are as follows:
- The people. Without a doubt the biggest deterrent for people joining is they don't want to deal with the people (read my bullet above about one of my cousins). I can't stand the whiny bitches that send me a request, I don't care to divulge my personal life to them, so I "ignore" their request, they apparently get a denial message, and now I get flack for not being a "friend". Eat shit and let rot your dangly bits you overly-sensitive tainted semen samples.
- Divulging of information by association. Sure, it's handy if you don't realize someone has a Facebook (silly assumption now-a-days, right?), and you see that they do after someone else has an update because they associated themselves to this person by posting a comment, tagging a photo, etc... But really? There are people I don't care to have know about my personal life, mostly because they don't realize that they don't want to know about my personal life, yet so long as there is a link somewhere between them and I (i.e. a friend of the both of us), they get it all every time I associate myself to this linking factor. Like Lingus said, privacy can be an issue, but they seem to be doing better, so long as we bitch loud enough.
- Another privacy bit that bugs me is that they would even allow for people to enter some information. Ask Jake what I threatened him with when he left his address on his profile! Why on earth would you even want to allow people to put their address, exact date of birth, phone number, and all this other information out there, full well knowing that if you do, YOU (as in the developer, i.e. Facebook) will catch crap (legitimate or not) the next time a girl is tailed by a 45 year old graying, ass-hair covered stalker named Wilbur, because this 13 year old didn't know better. Sure, blame the parents, blame the stalker, blame whoever you should or shouldn't, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they shouldn't even allow people to post that. No good can come from it. Why not just add an extra box where you can have your Facebook password displayed in clear-text for all to see. Or even better, post up a message saying "Do not divulge personal/geographical/sensitive information publicly, reserve such information for private messages."
- The fads. There isn't much Facebook can do to prevent these, as people always find ways to exploit their functionality, using different parts of the application in ways it was never intended, just to do "the cool thing". See above regarding the "Like this if you want to see the picture." This is just a general rant that every social networking application can relate to. Look back on the days of MySpace (deleted mine a while back, don't know if this is still "the cool thing to do") with all the surveys people would do. Who gives a shit? I used to make up my own just to piss others off. Would have questions such as "If you had to piss in your grandmother's ass or Ron Jeremy's, who would you rather?" Or "If you had to sacrifice your testicles via retardation with a phone cable, or hack off four of five fingers on both hands by steel-toe boot bludgeoning, thus making masturbation impossible, which blows your hair back more?". This clearly demonstrates the boredom and addiction of both the trend starters as well as the trend followers, all of which need to get out from behind their monitor and try something more productive, like bringing me a cold beer!