Now that's marketing!
http://gizmodo.com/5598449/new-droid-x-ny-times-ad-thumps-iphone-4-bumpers
Which puts their last ad to shame!:
http://gizmodo.com/5576702/droid-x-ny-times-ad-sneaks-in-iphone-4-jab
Played around with a Droid X some, makes the iPhone look like a piece of shit in my opinion.
I never used a smart phone. But the general consensus is that the iphone is well made and no other phone seems to work as well as it does. But as a downside it does less. IDK if thats true.
Quote from: ARTgames on July 28, 2010, 03:29:12 PM
I never used a smart phone. But the general consensus is that the iphone is well made and no other phone seems to work as well as it does. But as a downside it does less. IDK if thats true.
Whoever told you that is likely more sarcastic than even the reigning king of sarcasm, yours truly.
Why do you say that Scotty? As a specific instance, the iPhone has the best touchscreen of any device. It's more responsive than any other touchscreen. I'm not sure what all Art is referring to as far as "no other phone seems to work as well as it does" but that might be part of it. Obviously, the antenna doesn't work as well as a lot of other phones, but that's just one piece (given, a pretty major piece considering the main function of a phone is to make calls... but still).
I have to dig for it, but I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the touchscreen is actually glass. That's not good at all.
Quote from: Scotty on July 28, 2010, 05:07:39 PM
I have to dig for it, but I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the touchscreen is actually glass. That's not good at all.
While I don't have the new Iphone, so I can't vouch for that, I can say my Itouch is not glass.
Here's something I found a while back:
http://lifehacker.com/5575317/smartphone-comparison-chart-dishes-the-dirt-on-smartphone-specs?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+lifehacker/full+(Lifehacker)
Quote from: Scotty on July 28, 2010, 05:07:39 PM
I have to dig for it, but I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the touchscreen is actually glass. That's not good at all.
I'm not sure what you mean, but from everything I've heard, the actually technology behind the multi-touch screen that Apple uses in all of its devices is the best of any other device. I'm talking about the accuracy, that kind of thing. Not sure how it being glass would matter...
The two things going for the iphone are it's trusty touch screen and app store.
I haven't heard anything with regards to accuracy, so I cannot vouch for that, I was more or less pointing out design flaws.
Quote from: Jake on July 28, 2010, 05:29:48 PM
The two things going for the iphone are it's trusty touch screen and jailbreaking.
Sorry Jake, just had to fix your post. xD App store is crap
I used to be an iPhone follower. But now I'm an Evo 4G person. I saw it and was like screw the iPhone.
I would have to say the one benefit of having a tightly controlled app store like Apple has is that you are less likely to have crappy apps. The one thing I dislike about open platforms is the sheer quantity of horrible horrible crap that is put out. You end up spending most of your time installing, testing, and uninstalling things than actually using the system. Of course, it's a trade off in that there are also things that would potentially have been really good apps that didn't pass the test (or the developer just decides not to use that platform because of the closed system). So really it depends on what you want more: The freedom to do/have what you want, or the freedom from having to wade through hundreds of shitty apps to find the few good ones.
Quote from: Lingus on July 28, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
I would have to say the one benefit of having a tightly controlled app store like Apple has is that you are less likely to have crappy apps. The one thing I dislike about open platforms is the sheer quantity of horrible horrible crap that is put out. You end up spending most of your time installing, testing, and uninstalling things than actually using the system. Of course, it's a trade off in that there are also things that would potentially have been really good apps that didn't pass the test (or the developer just decides not to use that platform because of the closed system). So really it depends on what you want more: The freedom to do/have what you want, or the freedom from having to wade through hundreds of shitty apps to find the few good ones.
I find that particularly untrue... especially because of rating and review systems, even for jailbroken iphones. Its very easy to weed out the bad ones, and more good ones are put out than you would think.
And, even the iPhone app store has a bunch of crappy applications. They don't test for quality, they test for a set of rules, as far as I know. That is about it. What's more, half of those crappy applications cost money!
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on July 28, 2010, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: Lingus on July 28, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
I would have to say the one benefit of having a tightly controlled app store like Apple has is that you are less likely to have crappy apps. The one thing I dislike about open platforms is the sheer quantity of horrible horrible crap that is put out. You end up spending most of your time installing, testing, and uninstalling things than actually using the system. Of course, it's a trade off in that there are also things that would potentially have been really good apps that didn't pass the test (or the developer just decides not to use that platform because of the closed system). So really it depends on what you want more: The freedom to do/have what you want, or the freedom from having to wade through hundreds of shitty apps to find the few good ones.
I find that particularly untrue... especially because of rating and review systems, even for jailbroken iphones. Its very easy to weed out the bad ones, and more good ones are put out than you would think.
And, even the iPhone app store has a bunch of crappy applications. They don't test for quality, they test for a set of rules, as far as I know. That is about it.
How many flashlight apps are there out there? Hell, the only one I would've cared for was taken down before too long, where some kid figured out how to sneak it by Apple. This innocent appearing flashlight app actually worked to tether to your desktop/laptop via USB and you can receive internet through your 3G, essentially bypassing the charges that AT&T would charge you how many dozens for?
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on July 28, 2010, 07:58:40 PM
And, even the iPhone app store has a bunch of crappy applications. They don't test for quality, they test for a set of rules, as far as I know. That is about it.
That may be true, but from what I've seen, iPhones have higher quality applications than other smart phones. This may be because all the app developers realize people are flocking to iPhones like a blind mouse being led to cheese, thus making more, better apps, or because the rules actually do weed out some of the trashier apps in the App Store, although there are still lots of copied(like multiple gimmicks, such as a gun) and bad apps. I haven't seen QUITE as much of other smart phones as I have the iPhone, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on July 28, 2010, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: Lingus on July 28, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
I would have to say the one benefit of having a tightly controlled app store like Apple has is that you are less likely to have crappy apps. The one thing I dislike about open platforms is the sheer quantity of horrible horrible crap that is put out. You end up spending most of your time installing, testing, and uninstalling things than actually using the system. Of course, it's a trade off in that there are also things that would potentially have been really good apps that didn't pass the test (or the developer just decides not to use that platform because of the closed system). So really it depends on what you want more: The freedom to do/have what you want, or the freedom from having to wade through hundreds of shitty apps to find the few good ones.
I find that particularly untrue... especially because of rating and review systems, even for jailbroken iphones. Its very easy to weed out the bad ones, and more good ones are put out than you would think.
And, even the iPhone app store has a bunch of crappy applications. They don't test for quality, they test for a set of rules, as far as I know. That is about it. What's more, half of those crappy applications cost money!
Well, I can't really argue with you since I haven't really used it. This is just my general understanding of open versus closed platforms. It's simplified, but it tends to be true most of the time. Obviously there will be cases where it is not true.
Quote from: Scotty on July 28, 2010, 08:03:14 PM
How many flashlight apps are there out there? Hell, the only one I would've cared for was taken down before too long, where some kid figured out how to sneak it by Apple. This innocent appearing flashlight app actually worked to tether to your desktop/laptop via USB and you can receive internet through your 3G, essentially bypassing the charges that AT&T would charge you how many dozens for?
Well... the fact that there are a lot of flashlight apps is not really my point. I'm talking more about apps that just don't work or don't do what they're supposed to. I imagine Apple is going to get rid of any apps that simply fail.
And the second part of your post is really irrelevant. Obviously they're going to remove something that lets you bypass charges. But that kind of goes along with what I was stating as a down side to a closed system. In any case, are you telling me you can do that with the Droid? Verizon will let you bypass that and use your phone as an access point? Because normally you would have to pay an extra $30+ a month for that as well as purchasing the device that plugs into the computer. Cuz seriously, if you can do that I'm getting a Droid.
Oh, I'm not saying it's at all relevant, I just wanted to share that I thought it was bad ass for someone to be able to bypass Apple's mysterious app auditing process with something like that!
Quote from: Scotty on July 28, 2010, 08:22:50 PM
Oh, I'm not saying it's at all relevant, I just wanted to share that I thought it was bad ass for someone to be able to bypass Apple's mysterious app auditing process with something like that!
I'm surprised they actually let that get by them in the first place. If there's one thing Apple is good at, it's having overkill regulations. They're usually more paranoid about checking for things like that. Just goes to show how much more incompetent some companies are getting..
Quote from: Scotty on July 28, 2010, 08:03:14 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on July 28, 2010, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: Lingus on July 28, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
I would have to say the one benefit of having a tightly controlled app store like Apple has is that you are less likely to have crappy apps. The one thing I dislike about open platforms is the sheer quantity of horrible horrible crap that is put out. You end up spending most of your time installing, testing, and uninstalling things than actually using the system. Of course, it's a trade off in that there are also things that would potentially have been really good apps that didn't pass the test (or the developer just decides not to use that platform because of the closed system). So really it depends on what you want more: The freedom to do/have what you want, or the freedom from having to wade through hundreds of shitty apps to find the few good ones.
I find that particularly untrue... especially because of rating and review systems, even for jailbroken iphones. Its very easy to weed out the bad ones, and more good ones are put out than you would think.
And, even the iPhone app store has a bunch of crappy applications. They don't test for quality, they test for a set of rules, as far as I know. That is about it.
How many flashlight apps are there out there? Hell, the only one I would've cared for was taken down before too long, where some kid figured out how to sneak it by Apple. This innocent appearing flashlight app actually worked to tether to your desktop/laptop via USB and you can receive internet through your 3G, essentially bypassing the charges that AT&T would charge you how many dozens for?
I saw that. Even though they don't currently have it available on the app store, you can still get it through the jailbreak community. It was a free app I believe so it should be 100% legal due to the new DMCA laws. Although If I'm wrong this should be deleted. >.>
http://gizmodo.com/5592521/how-a-guy-tricked-apple-with-a-disguised-iphone-tethering-app
Quote from: Scotty on July 28, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5592521/how-a-guy-tricked-apple-with-a-disguised-iphone-tethering-app
Genius. Too bad everyone blabbed about it, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten caught.
The apple app store is actually one of the weakest parts of the iPhone in contrast to the Android in my opinion. The apple SDK for developing apps, as well as apples restrictions and filtering of stuff makes the apple app store infinitely worse than the android market in my opinion. The only thing better about the iPhone app store is that seeing as the iPhone has thus far had a bigger following, their are more apps available (even though 90% plus are crap in my opinion). But with the android you can also distribute apps however you like, using their equivalent app store or not.
Which is why Stick Online 3 is coming to an Android devices near you! Thank you Meiun! :P