So the game comes out November 9th and I have already pre-ordered it, from the videos I have seen this game looks pure awesome. This time around Treyarch is the new developer, ridding of Infinity Ward, but from what I have seen it doesn't look like they strayed too far from their path. Here are a couple vids if you haven't seen them yet..
Multiplayer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_fsM6LBi54 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_fsM6LBi54)
Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtRnpC7ddv8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtRnpC7ddv8)
Can't wait for it to come out, discuss.
Meh, it looks alright, I hate the first kill streak reward though, Its a little remote car that you physically drive around the map and have ti actually find the person. The graphics and everything look really good, I cant wait to try it. And I lol'd at the bow in that trailer, because it resembles the tourque bow from Gears of War. But it still looks really good.
Oh, and this trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sg7p5vFAZg&feature=channel kicks that trailers ass anyday. Eminem Ftw.
~Looperpuck
I don't know how I will afford it but it does look fun.
I'm so sorry you don't get an instant kill without putting in any effort Loop, In my opinion the only Kill steaks that were in MW2 that were not completely unfair was UAVs/CounterUAVs and a regular air strike(Like in COD4), and i guess EMP(not like anyone used it.)
sorry tired of cod. its too much of the same thing in a short period of time.
Quote from: venuse on September 22, 2010, 08:51:22 PM
sorry tired of cod. its too much of the same thing in a short period of time.
^This.^ The FPS genre's been way too diluted lately. Doesn't mean it's not a good game, just means too many shooters are being made. It gets monotonous after a while.
Quote from: Mystery on September 22, 2010, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: venuse on September 22, 2010, 08:51:22 PM
sorry tired of cod. its too much of the same thing in a short period of time.
^This.^ The FPS genre's been way too diluted lately.
That's why I just bought Red Orchestra.
There's a good FPS for you.
Screw all the new ones.
Quote from: Lucifer on September 22, 2010, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: Mystery on September 22, 2010, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: venuse on September 22, 2010, 08:51:22 PM
sorry tired of cod. its too much of the same thing in a short period of time.
^This.^ The FPS genre's been way too diluted lately.
That's why I just bought Red Orchestra.
There's a good FPS for you.
Screw all the new ones.
I like the look of that one, I'll probably take a more in-depth analysis of the game later. Seems incredibly good.
I kinda look at it as the same game being updated a lot that's really expensive. I'm not really tired of COD yet.
Quote from: ARTgames on September 22, 2010, 09:56:19 PM
I kinda look at it as the same game being updated a lot that's really expensive. I'm not really tired of COD yet.
Yeah, there's your problem. It's almost the same damn thing each time.
Hey I never said that sentence was suppose to make it look good. : P
It has a good about of new things that I would like. I like the new game modes, weps, settings. I also like the main game play mechanic still. And I like how on PC they will support decanted servers like they did in the past.
Quote from: ARTgames on September 22, 2010, 10:43:28 PM
It has a good about of new things that I would like. I like the new game modes, weps, settings. I also like the main game play mechanic still. And I like how on PC they will support decanted servers like they did in the past.
Don't get me wrong, I like CoD quite a bit. All of those things you said(especially multiplayer, only reason half of the people buy it probably)are major pluses. But when you get too many games that are too similar in structure, things seem watered down.
Quote from: Mystery on September 22, 2010, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: venuse on September 22, 2010, 08:51:22 PM
sorry tired of cod. its too much of the same thing in a short period of time.
^This.^ The FPS genre's been way too diluted lately. Doesn't mean it's not a good game, just means too many shooters are being made. It gets monotonous after a while.
Most games are being sequeled out due to corporate greed lately, Activision has been making a killing and has killed several franchises at this time. But whatever, I guess.
I did preorder this game for $50 on newegg, so I wouldn't mind it, they announced a mod kit so I'm hoping that the least they can do is dish out mapping tools, custom skins/models would be nice too :P
Yeh i'll probs be getting this but might wait until after xmas.
Hopefully the price will drop but i doubt it lol! ;D
Quote from: Tyco-RC on October 05, 2010, 06:41:23 PM
Yeh i'll probs be getting this but might wait until after xmas.
Hopefully the price will drop but i doubt it lol! ;D
i doubt it too.
around where i live MW2 is still full price
I was reading in OXM about some of the new game modes they have.
There's one thats a free for all, but you only get 1 bullet and a knife. Each kill you get earns you one more bullet.
Theres another one thats like just bows and tomahawks, yet because the tomahawk is suppose to be really hard to use you get 3 points instead of one.
The new unlock system reminds me of Halo Reach's armor credit system.
Basicly, you now earn in game currency for playing games and such, and can unlock whatever you want.
So I like the fact that they're adding a little bit of change. I'm worried that it will be like all the other Call of Duties.
They seriously get so repetitive. I'm hoping they change up the perks and throw some more new things in for multiplayer.
Quote from: Titan on October 05, 2010, 07:15:53 PM
So I like the fact that they're adding a little bit of change. I'm worried that it will be like all the other Call of Duties.
They seriously get so repetitive. I'm hoping they change up the perks and throw some more new things in for multiplayer.
You mean like the customisation they added? They have a full trailer for the customisation now, freaking awesome.
Quote from: Titan on October 05, 2010, 07:15:53 PM
I was reading in OXM about some of the new game modes they have.
There's one thats a free for all, but you only get 1 bullet and a knife. Each kill you get earns you one more bullet.
Theres another one thats like just bows and tomahawks, yet because the tomahawk is suppose to be really hard to use you get 3 points instead of one.
The new unlock system reminds me of Halo Reach's armor credit system.
Basicly, you now earn in game currency for playing games and such, and can unlock whatever you want.
So I like the fact that they're adding a little bit of change. I'm worried that it will be like all the other Call of Duties.
They seriously get so repetitive. I'm hoping they change up the perks and throw some more new things in for multiplayer.
Yea theres a trailer for it... looks sweet, and yea they do need to make more multiplayer changes cuz it got repetitive in mw1 and 2. They should also add more to prestige because it gets annoying how you don't really get anything new except for callsigns... and a badge..
I have no faith in Treyarch. I mean, what the heck? MP40 could tank any gun while silenced without stopping power. They kept tanks in Hardcore HQ (my #1 mode). On the church level, a tank shell at the tower kills anyone in it. Period.
Nearing prestige 10 on MW2, I wouldn't buy Black Ops even if I wanted it.
~Aqua
Quote from: stick d00d on October 05, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
Quote from: Titan on October 05, 2010, 07:15:53 PM
I was reading in OXM about some of the new game modes they have.
There's one thats a free for all, but you only get 1 bullet and a knife. Each kill you get earns you one more bullet.
Theres another one thats like just bows and tomahawks, yet because the tomahawk is suppose to be really hard to use you get 3 points instead of one.
The new unlock system reminds me of Halo Reach's armor credit system.
Basicly, you now earn in game currency for playing games and such, and can unlock whatever you want.
So I like the fact that they're adding a little bit of change. I'm worried that it will be like all the other Call of Duties.
They seriously get so repetitive. I'm hoping they change up the perks and throw some more new things in for multiplayer.
Yea theres a trailer for it... looks sweet, and yea they do need to make more multiplayer changes cuz it got repetitive in mw1 and 2. They should also add more to prestige because it gets annoying how you don't really get anything new except for callsigns... and a badge..
I looked at some of the stuff like camo's, and you have to prestige to get Gold Camo.
I cant tell what it means by Prestige Level 14.
What do you think? 14th Prestige or 1st Prestige Level 14?
Quote from: Mystery on September 22, 2010, 09:57:32 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on September 22, 2010, 09:56:19 PM
I kinda look at it as the same game being updated a lot that's really expensive. I'm not really tired of COD yet.
Yeah, there's your problem. It's almost the same damn thing each time.
That's what
all video games are, more specifically expansions and sequels.
Anyone seen the latest trailer by Inside Xbox?
Haha some dude uses the Dive to Prone to jump over a Valkyrie rocket. So easy to tell its set up, who the f*** would fly the rocket that low.
...I wonder how many shots that took xD
QuoteI looked at some of the stuff like camo's, and you have to prestige to get Gold Camo.
I cant tell what it means by Prestige Level 14.
What do you think? 14th Prestige or 1st Prestige Level 14?
I read theres 15 Prestiges in Black Ops with the max level being 55.
Yeah i saw that too. Probs gonna be 14th prestige then :/
Maybe. Anyways I have Preordedred this game on Xbox360 (Hardened). And i saw that they where bringing back tactical insertions and most people took boosting as a huge deal in MW2, but really it isnt to hard to spot them and them just look around because they where never that hard to find. But with them in Black Ops I heard they have a 10second plant time after you respawn, And a friend over XBL said if you go into theatre mode and find them you can report and ban them but i Highly doubt that.
wheres all the wii vids and screenshots? ive seen a good number fr other systems are they just gona keep wii people in the dark untill it is actually launched or what.
Quote from: Josh on October 31, 2010, 04:20:07 AM
Maybe. Anyways I have Preordedred this game on Xbox360 (Hardened). And i saw that they where bringing back tactical insertions and most people took boosting as a huge deal in MW2, but really it isnt to hard to spot them and them just look around because they where never that hard to find. But with them in Black Ops I heard they have a 10second plant time after you respawn, And a friend over XBL said if you go into theatre mode and find them you can report and ban them but i Highly doubt that.
Haha, sucks for boosters. Pretty easy to notice, especially on the modes I do. Then I kind of step up and farm them... xD
~Aqua
Yea I always enjoyed versing boosters ^^ Good fun.
Anyways since the game is coming out in like 3 days im pretty excited and ive already seen some gameplay on youtube with zombies and that good stuff.
I am downloading this game now. Looks pretty fun. 7GBs though. D:
Download 0.o
I get it mailed down so i get in tomorrow, but i went to a friends and i played some with him its good fun. Zombies is harder then WaWs one because they seem to destroy barriers faster and move faster. Online is awesome the knifing hit detection is a bit painful. Graphics really arnt the best, some maps are real painful to look at :S
Quote from: Josh on November 09, 2010, 03:31:44 AM
Download 0.o
I get it mailed down so i get in tomorrow, but i went to a friends and i played some with him its good fun. Zombies is harder then WaWs one because they seem to destroy barriers faster and move faster. Online is awesome the knifing hit detection is a bit painful. Graphics really arnt the best, some maps are real painful to look at :S
Zombies? I thought that was just a rumor... it's true? o.0
I think I might go buy it today for PS3.
Quote from: Freeforall on November 09, 2010, 08:22:14 AM
Quote from: Josh on November 09, 2010, 03:31:44 AM
Download 0.o
I get it mailed down so i get in tomorrow, but i went to a friends and i played some with him its good fun. Zombies is harder then WaWs one because they seem to destroy barriers faster and move faster. Online is awesome the knifing hit detection is a bit painful. Graphics really arnt the best, some maps are real painful to look at :S
Zombies? I thought that was just a rumor... it's true? o.0
I think I might go buy it today for PS3.
Zombies have been confimed for quite a while, with maps including The Pentagon and Kino Der Untoten. Heaps of leaked footage on youtube before black ops came out haha, you just had to know where to look.
Quote from: YayForLife on November 09, 2010, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Freeforall on November 09, 2010, 08:22:14 AM
Quote from: Josh on November 09, 2010, 03:31:44 AM
Download 0.o
I get it mailed down so i get in tomorrow, but i went to a friends and i played some with him its good fun. Zombies is harder then WaWs one because they seem to destroy barriers faster and move faster. Online is awesome the knifing hit detection is a bit painful. Graphics really arnt the best, some maps are real painful to look at :S
Zombies? I thought that was just a rumor... it's true? o.0
I think I might go buy it today for PS3.
Zombies have been confimed for quite a while, with maps including The Pentagon and Kino Der Untoten. Heaps of leaked footage on youtube before black ops came out haha, you just had to know where to look.
Ah, I found it. Apparently, there is another map called "White House" but I'm not so sure of that.
I think I am going to buy it in an hour or so. :P
Yea i also think you can download classic zombie maps from WaW bu idk.
Quote from: Josh on November 09, 2010, 04:01:54 PM
Yea i also think you can download classic zombie maps from WaW bu idk.
I don't know if you can download them, but I DO know that they come with the Hardened and Prestige edition.
Ohk I see,
But with the new online splitscreen mode you can play with your friends or siblings instead of taking turns over deaths or games (Just like Halo)
And the crossbow and Ballistic knife to me arnt as easy to use as they look :S
Quote from: Josh on November 09, 2010, 04:21:43 PM
Ohk I see,
But with the new online splitscreen mode you can play with your friends or siblings instead of taking turns over deaths or games (Just like Halo)
And the crossbow and Ballistic knife to me arnt as easy to use as they look :S
Online Splitscreen? That is epic. I played that all of the time on Halo 3. Except this could be an unfair advantage; people will see players on the other screen from halfway across the map, or they could boost easier.
EDIT: Just got the game for PS3! Looks pretty sweet. It's updating right now, though.
As i said in an earlier post theyve covered up boosting pretty good.
I just got my game yesterday and I gotta say I'm not very impressed. The graphics aren't horrible, but they aren't great. The scopes on the weapons, fail. You gotta pay for every attachment, weapon, equipment etc. instead of earning it through kills, which isn't a problem, but I don't really like it. The maps, I don't have a single problem with other then there are a lot more campers/hiding. Sniping kinda got ruined because of the way the scopes are, and it is hard to get an accurate shot. <--BTW this is just with the Dragunov idk about the other rifles yet.
On the other hand, I love the campaign, zombies, and number of maps. The wager matches are pretty genius and they are challenging as well. The ballistic knife and crossbow are pure awesome, and like josh said, not very easy to use. The matchmaking is quick, no problem there, and the new playercards are pretty sweet. I do dislike the way you earn camo now, through leveling and not headshots, but meh I guess this isn't too bad.
All in all I would recommend the game, just read this before you get it though so you know what to expect.
ALSO, PS3 multi is laggy atm, but I think its just because the servers are crowded..
ok call of duty black ops pc has entered my irritation list. this game runs like crap so far in multi-player, and im not the only person with the problem. call of duty modern warefare 2 i could max out and still have an average fps of 50 to 70. this pos i have to turn all the settings either off or low just to get a playable fps. this is a warning to pc users only, since i have no clue about the other versions.
Quote from: venuse on November 10, 2010, 06:50:06 PM
ok call of duty black ops pc has entered my irritation list. this game runs like crap so far in multi-player, and im not the only person with the problem. call of duty modern warefare 2 i could max out and still have an average fps of 50 to 70. this pos i have to turn all the settings either off or low just to get a playable fps. this is a warning to pc users only, since i have no clue about the other versions.
Black Ops even has FPS lag on the PS3.
When I play MW2 on PC I get around 60-70 FPS, But this is ridiculous.
On my PS3, if I look at an explosion or just some trees for too long, it lags out.
I said from the start that Black Ops wouldn't hold up to something like Modern Warfare 2 because it's made by an inferior company. Treyarch simply doesn't have the expertise that Infinity Ward has (or had for that matter). Sure Black Ops may have some cool features, but MW2 had a higher level of polish and much more thoughtful design.
Yea MW2 was a lot more addictive on my part. And i haven't seem to have any lag so far as painful and massively irritating on Xbox.
Quote from: Josh on November 11, 2010, 04:28:38 AM
Yea MW2 was a lot more addictive on my part. And i haven't seem to have any lag so far as painful and massively irritating on Xbox.
I dont seem to understand this part, do you mean you havent experienced lag yet on Xbox? coz i heard that they made a patchfairly quickly, at least for the xbox version. Dont know about the others yet though.
No not much lag on my part. But eh it should settle down over a month/2? Where there are not like 5million people on?
well looks like i might be able to get my money back on the game, although im still crossing my fingers maybe wheni get my money back.
if this game was made by infinity ward, it would have been 10x better, kinda disappointing... and the lag is pretty unbearable atm, which is why I am staying away from it for a while... (on ps3 btw)
EDIT: They are working on patches for all platforms. Link: http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/ (http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/)
Quote from: stick d00d on November 11, 2010, 05:27:02 PM
if this game was made by infinity ward, it would have been 10x better, kinda disappointing... and the lag is pretty unbearable atm, which is why I am staying away from it for a while... (on ps3 btw)
EDIT: They are working on patches for all platforms. Link: http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/ (http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/)
Infinity Ward does not know how to balance a game. They also don't know how to patch a game. If Black Ops was made by IW, we would have people camping in obscure locations, with infinite insanelypowerful grenade launchers, infinite claymores, and getting easy killstreaks that get them another 10-15 kills. I don't think I'll ever buy an IW game again.
Quote from: Torch on November 11, 2010, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: stick d00d on November 11, 2010, 05:27:02 PM
if this game was made by infinity ward, it would have been 10x better, kinda disappointing... and the lag is pretty unbearable atm, which is why I am staying away from it for a while... (on ps3 btw)
EDIT: They are working on patches for all platforms. Link: http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/ (http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/)
Infinity Ward does not know how to balance a game. They also don't know how to patch a game. If Black Ops was made by IW, we would have people camping in obscure locations, with infinite insanelypowerful grenade launchers, infinite claymores, and getting easy killstreaks that get them another 10-15 kills. I don't think I'll ever buy an IW game again.
How come I don't see any of that in MW2? From what I've heard so far, camping is much easier in Black Ops.
atleast iw would make the game playable. i will gladly take campers over 17fps at the most basic settings
Quote from: Jake on November 11, 2010, 06:33:08 PM
Quote from: Torch on November 11, 2010, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: stick d00d on November 11, 2010, 05:27:02 PM
if this game was made by infinity ward, it would have been 10x better, kinda disappointing... and the lag is pretty unbearable atm, which is why I am staying away from it for a while... (on ps3 btw)
EDIT: They are working on patches for all platforms. Link: http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/ (http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/)
Infinity Ward does not know how to balance a game. They also don't know how to patch a game. If Black Ops was made by IW, we would have people camping in obscure locations, with infinite insanelypowerful grenade launchers, infinite claymores, and getting easy killstreaks that get them another 10-15 kills. I don't think I'll ever buy an IW game again.
How come I don't see any of that in MW2? From what I've heard so far, camping is much easier in Black Ops.
I don't believe that you don't see this. Camping isn't my concern, balance is. IW made assault rifles far too powerful, completely imbalanced killstreaks (9killstreak pavelow gets average of 5-10 kills, 9killstreak stealth bomber gets maybe 2?), insanely overpowered grenade launchers (that can be replenished at any time using onemanarmy), death streaks that reward players for playing poorly, etc etc etc.
Quote from: venuse on November 11, 2010, 06:46:16 PM
atleast iw would make the game playable. i will gladly take campers over 17fps at the most basic settings
Same. My PS3 lags so bad on this game.
And also, I noticed, on Free-For-All, you spawn so close to the enemies, they can see you. I REALLY hate this. I die almost instantly.
And grenade lawnchairs and back? :/ I hated those so much in all of the other CODs, and they bring them back? WHY???
i got my money back luckily although im wondering if ill loose the right to play the pc version or will i still get to play it still. either think illl wait till a used copy of the wii version shows up for like 29 dollars and get it or something or play some free mmofps.
Quote from: Torch on November 12, 2010, 12:59:32 PM
Quote from: Jake on November 11, 2010, 06:33:08 PM
Quote from: Torch on November 11, 2010, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: stick d00d on November 11, 2010, 05:27:02 PM
if this game was made by infinity ward, it would have been 10x better, kinda disappointing... and the lag is pretty unbearable atm, which is why I am staying away from it for a while... (on ps3 btw)
EDIT: They are working on patches for all platforms. Link: http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/ (http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/)
Infinity Ward does not know how to balance a game. They also don't know how to patch a game. If Black Ops was made by IW, we would have people camping in obscure locations, with infinite insanelypowerful grenade launchers, infinite claymores, and getting easy killstreaks that get them another 10-15 kills. I don't think I'll ever buy an IW game again.
How come I don't see any of that in MW2? From what I've heard so far, camping is much easier in Black Ops.
I don't believe that you don't see this. Camping isn't my concern, balance is. IW made assault rifles far too powerful, completely imbalanced killstreaks (9killstreak pavelow gets average of 5-10 kills, 9killstreak stealth bomber gets maybe 2?), insanely overpowered grenade launchers (that can be replenished at any time using onemanarmy), death streaks that reward players for playing poorly, etc etc etc.
I believe everything you said, I just don't think it ruins the game. I don't play cheaply (apart from the fact that I use an assault rifle with stopping power), and I generally kick major amounts of butt, so all the little stupid things everyone else does, doesn't really matter. The only thing that really gets to me once in a while is the n00b tubes, but that's really not that big of an issue. I also think death streaks are a good idea.
No matter what Infinity Ward does, people are going to complain about it. If they make the assault rifles weaker, people will say they're gimped. If they get rid of death streaks, people would freak out. I guess I just accept the fact that a game isn't going to be tuned exactly how I want it, and try to enjoy it anyway.
Personally, the Call of Duty series isn't as great as many make it out to be. Amazing graphics, especially in Modern Warfare 2, but it does not make up for the lack of fun in the multiplayer modes due to camping and everything else. A good FPS game would be Battlefield: Bad Company 2, due to it's destructable torrain, ability to drive and fly various vehicles and aircrafts, the maps are way larger which makes it seem far more realistic, and the players actually behave and are not total "noobs".
Black Ops looks decent, but I hear it's lag and downgrade of graphics have gotten people upset. Though, I couldn't careless if the graphics are not as good as before, mainly because it's much better then last gens, as long as the gameplay is good. I'm looking most forward to the multiplayer split-screen mode, since I have friends who would love to come over and just chill and kill some dudes online alongside me. I really wish more games would consist of it - Halo was always great fun online. Definitely will buy it, but I don't think it can compare to my Bad Company 2.
I have a friend who has it on the PC. He said he like it and it runs just fine. I also know pure pwange has it on his pc and seems to play it a lot. I'm probably going to be playing it on the xbox soon to see how it is.
frankly i think ill try the freeware game alliance of the valiant arms, once i get it downloaded. looks like modern warefare from the vids ive seen.
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ATTENTION!
Anyone that has Black Ops for PS3, add me as a friend!
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I play online on xbox 360, just got it today. :) I like it. Currently playing it atm, if anyone wants to play with me.
To anyone complaining about how Trey made a bad CoD game, let me just remind you about MW2 developed by Infinity Ward who milked the game to oblivion, put map packs up for 15 bucks when they should have been 5 AT MOST, in-put absolutely retarded killstreaks and how they work (insta-win game nukes that can be got by camping, then getting a 11 kill streak to get a AC-130 and rack up the rest of the kills with ease and call in a nuke), completely ignored calls for dedicated servers, screwed mod support, and refused to add the fan favorite zombie mode.
You people need to be more appreciative of how Treyarch works. They may not have the expertize of Infinity Ward, but god dammit they sure are better at pleasing the fans. Black Ops has dedicated servers, return of zombie mode (with the humorous weapons and easter eggs still in touch), DLC such as maps are being said to be provided free of charge, a better perk/killstreak system with a maximum killstreak reward of 11 kills and no instant-gameover nuke, and MOD SUPPORT, THANK GOD! Now the game will have a better lifespan..On the PC atleast, sorry consolers.
And for anyone complaining about the hardware bugs, all I gotta say is be freakin' patient. Every game EEVVERRRYY game that gets released now-a-days is bound to have a serious faulty, or game breaking bug. Treyarch can't help it, and they're trying their best to get everything running smoothly, but this shit doesn't happen over night, or even over weeks. As I said before they don't have the expertise that IW has, but they make up for that by listening to fans and not giving into greed. I'm not saying that they are doing this all in their heart- I mean hell every company is after money first and foremost. But all these additions make up for the problems. IW was alright back in CoD4, but now they are just greedy !@#$s.
I'm not a huge hardcore fan of the CoD games, but I like to enjoy them, so I personally couldn't care who develops the games, but I will say this. I would sooner have Treyarch working on the CoD games than IW anyday.
And with all that said, Ima go finish up single-player now.
Played this game for like, 10 hours straight this weekend. Still dont own it yet though, was staying over my cousins.
Lag problems? None on the 360 :P
Zombie mode? Fun as ever
Single Plyaer? Kinda boring at times, but all around great
Combat Training? Ok seriously, why is this in the Online section? Shouldnt it be available in local? wtf?
Gun Game? Epic fun, won 2 of em so far, more often then not I finish in the money.
Sticks and Stones? Frag fest away!
Sharp Shooter? Awesome fun for more balanced matches.
One in the Chamber? Ok i seriously DO NOT like this mode, but i've only played it twice.
Multiplayer? Voting for maps! Yeah you can only vote for Random, the previous map or the "net" map, but this gets ridiculous at times. I played Summit 15 times in a row.
Some of the guns are still a bit OP, but not too many, and at least if someone shoots you theres still a chace to get away, its not just one shot kills with basically every gun like in MW2.
Dead Ops Arcade? Haha, got to be one of the greatest bits in the game.
Just out of curiosty, where do you find the cool game modes like sticks and stones?
(I've only played one muliplayer game and didn't see them on the lists)
Quote from: Titan on November 14, 2010, 08:28:53 AM
Just out of curiosty, where do you find the cool game modes like sticks and stones?
(I've only played one muliplayer game and didn't see them on the lists)
Wager matches.
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on November 14, 2010, 03:40:01 AM
To anyone complaining about how Trey made a bad CoD game, let me just remind you about MW2 developed by Infinity Ward who milked the game to oblivion, put map packs up for 15 bucks when they should have been 5 AT MOST, in-put absolutely retarded killstreaks and how they work (insta-win game nukes that can be got by camping, then getting a 11 kill streak to get a AC-130 and rack up the rest of the kills with ease and call in a nuke), completely ignored calls for dedicated servers, screwed mod support, and refused to add the fan favorite zombie mode.
You do realize Activision had the final say when it came to map pack price as well as dedicated servers, right? Not only that, but zombie mode is treyarch's thing. Infinityward isn't the type of company that copies other people's accomplishments, and I respect that more than if they stole Treyarch's pride and joy, even if people did want it in MW2.
Most of the gripes for MW2 are silly from what I've seen. It's a bunch of little nitpicking. What I do see though is a much higher bar of quality than what treyarch has to offer. I was playing the Black Ops campaign, and I instantly realized that it wasn't nearly as polished or fun as Cod4 or even MW2. Sure, I could tell they tried their best, but it honestly felt like another boring rehash of shooters in the past, albeit with bigger set pieces.
QuoteAnd for anyone complaining about the hardware bugs, all I gotta say is be freakin' patient. Every game EEVVERRRYY game that gets released now-a-days is bound to have a serious faulty, or game breaking bug. Treyarch can't help it, and they're trying their best to get everything running smoothly, but this shit doesn't happen over night, or even over weeks. As I said before they don't have the expertise that IW has, but they make up for that by listening to fans and not giving into greed. I'm not saying that they are doing this all in their heart- I mean hell every company is after money first and foremost. But all these additions make up for the problems. IW was alright back in CoD4, but now they are just greedy !@#$s.
Blaming Infinityward for Activisions greed is stupid. Besides, even if Infinityward did set the prices, it would be a decision made by 1 or 2 people who have nothing to do with the hard work that goes into the game. Blaming the amazing coders, sound designers, and 3d modelers for being greedy is silly.
Quote from: Jake on November 13, 2010, 01:24:42 PM
Quote from: Torch on November 12, 2010, 12:59:32 PM
Quote from: Jake on November 11, 2010, 06:33:08 PM
Quote from: Torch on November 11, 2010, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: stick d00d on November 11, 2010, 05:27:02 PM
if this game was made by infinity ward, it would have been 10x better, kinda disappointing... and the lag is pretty unbearable atm, which is why I am staying away from it for a while... (on ps3 btw)
EDIT: They are working on patches for all platforms. Link: http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/ (http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/11/cod_black_ops_patch_is/)
Infinity Ward does not know how to balance a game. They also don't know how to patch a game. If Black Ops was made by IW, we would have people camping in obscure locations, with infinite insanelypowerful grenade launchers, infinite claymores, and getting easy killstreaks that get them another 10-15 kills. I don't think I'll ever buy an IW game again.
How come I don't see any of that in MW2? From what I've heard so far, camping is much easier in Black Ops.
I don't believe that you don't see this. Camping isn't my concern, balance is. IW made assault rifles far too powerful, completely imbalanced killstreaks (9killstreak pavelow gets average of 5-10 kills, 9killstreak stealth bomber gets maybe 2?), insanely overpowered grenade launchers (that can be replenished at any time using onemanarmy), death streaks that reward players for playing poorly, etc etc etc.
I believe everything you said, I just don't think it ruins the game. I don't play cheaply (apart from the fact that I use an assault rifle with stopping power), and I generally kick major amounts of butt, so all the little stupid things everyone else does, doesn't really matter. The only thing that really gets to me once in a while is the n00b tubes, but that's really not that big of an issue. I also think death streaks are a good idea.
No matter what Infinity Ward does, people are going to complain about it. If they make the assault rifles weaker, people will say they're gimped. If they get rid of death streaks, people would freak out. I guess I just accept the fact that a game isn't going to be tuned exactly how I want it, and try to enjoy it anyway.
MW2 appeals to the average 10yearold gamer. It takes virtually no skill (guns have no recoil and kill almost instantly, painkiller ensures you winning a gunfight if you are playing poorly, commando allows you to forsake aim altogether and just teleport-knife for kills, killstreaks give you other killstreaks that give you tons of free kills, grenade launchers are infinite and take no aiming skill, etc, etc, etc.
The 10yearold feels proud of themselves when they get a high score as a result of imbalances and luck.
Black Ops appeals to the hardcore gamers. To get kills, you pretty much need to outskill the other player every time. It requires you to take advantage of your gun's strengths (assault rifles aren't the all-purpose insta-killers that they were in MW2, they're only really effective at their respective ranges), maneuver the map to your advantage, effectively use cover, etc. Also care packages have been nerfed to the point that you hardly ever get anything larger than a 3killstreak reward from them.
The hardcore gamer can work to improve their skill at the game and gradually do better.
You say MW2s flaws aren't gamebreaking, but try going up against a team of onemanarmy/scavenger noobtubers. You can't move without randomly dying from someone sitting on top of a building launchers them off into the sky, 5 kills in they have predator missiles that give them harriers that give them chopper gunners, which go on to spawnkill you repeatedly. You can't play the damn game. Not to mention boosters, which were in more than half the damn ffa matches and gave you an autoloss. What about all the times you join games where the enemy team has 2 harriers, an ac130, and a chopper gunner out and you don't even have enough time to shoot something down before it can kill you 20 times? The game was completely broken and IW made no attempts to fix it.
You are wrong about black ops in some ways. There is more spawn-killing, camping, the remote-control cars are nearly impossible to destroy or avoid, chopper gunners are 10x more annoying as they hit thru just about anything and everything, knife swings a lot faster and farther then it used to(almost comparable to commando, but not quite as far).
I will say though that I have gotten used to the downgrade in weapon power, as well as stopping power being taken from the game. It does indeed take a lot more shots to kill, which, annoying at times, makes it a lot more difficult for the average player. The lag obviously which is being worked on is my last complaint. It is a good game, just takes time to get used to.
Quote from: Torch on November 16, 2010, 10:37:55 PM
Also care packages have been nerfed to the point that you hardly ever get anything larger than a 3killstreak reward from them.
But this isn't completely true, With the hardline pro perk you can 're-roll' care packages and you'll get something better nearly every time, In my experience with it i changed SAM Sites for Valkyries and Ammo drops to gunships and dogs. You nearly always get something above 5killstreak witch is an alright drop.
For xbox live they patched it so that you can't revote for the same map 1 billion times in a row.
Is it just me, or is there no way to view your overall kills and deaths / KDR, just the statistics for the specific gamemodes? :(
Well in TDM pressing select(back) will open up your kills, death and ratio. Otherwise go to your playercard, combat record to see your Win-Loss Ratio and press RB R1 i think and youll see your overall ratio.
My Spas Minitage :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJVSB9ih884
Anyone else used Theater Mode yet?
Quote from: Freeforall on November 23, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
My Spas Minitage :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJVSB9ih884
Anyone else used Theater Mode yet?
Yeah i made 2 vids of me kicking butt in gun game haha
anyone from xbox live area wanna play with me? (thats what she said) - GT: Isawtroy
Bumpy.
So two years after breaking it, we finally bought a new Ps3, One of those smaller sexy 320GB ones, hell of a lot more user-friendly than that brick I had before. My sister also bought Black Ops with it, and we've been having a ton of fun inviting my other brothers and sisters & friends for four way split screen local, or two online. I played through the entire campaign on Veteran, which isn't too hard if you don't mind dying twenty billion times in order to do some parts. Their definition of "difficulty" is not only increasing damage done to you, but making everyone auto-aim at you the instant you poke your head around a corner.
The campaign story was fairly interesting story-wise, I didn't expect the ending. The gameplay was pretty well done, had you jump hoops through a ton of different mini-games of sorts, like controlling boats, helicopters, machine guns, motorcycles etc. Most of which were basically the same, blow up everything in sight terminator-style. Speaking of terminator style, holy christ, the main character was !@#$ing Chuck Norris and Arnold Schwarzenegger wrapped up in one. One second he's breaking out of prison, mowing down the entire facility with a Gatling gun, the next he's pumping fools with a sawed-off shotgun while riding a motorcycle, and pretty soon he's blowing up entire villages with a helicopter. What the !@#$? The pure amount of carnage was just rediculous, I was not immersed, there's a level between "fun" and "realistic" which they smeared all over the place. And you gotta love the COD series's health system, makes me laugh every time I get shot. "Oh you just got smacked in the face by an RPG? Walk it off pussy, get over it!" Just wait a few seconds and Badaboom, you're good as new. I don't get it, is this demi-god sort of health system supposed to even Try immersing you?
But although I was not immersed, I did have fun, and completed the campaign playing on-off over two days. Only times I ever got bored was when I died repeatedly, but I was asking for that by choosing Veteran :x. About the graphics, I wasn't blown away, but I rarely stood there and went "meh!". I noticed the walking animations in the pentagon were very poor, and some trees in the snow levels weren't very textured, but I didn't much care after noticing. About lag.. maybe they've patched it sense, but I've had zero lag whatsoever, single player or online.
As to online, first off, the last COD I played was CoD4 Modern Warfare. I didn't play either of the in-between games by either company, so I've nothing to say in comparison to them. But in comparison to COD4, it's got much of the same general COD feel to it. Playing first person shooters on consoles has never really been my thing, but I can relate to people who enjoy it, it's kind nice to play a game where everyone is on the same playing field. I've always had a less-than-average computer for its time, and playing a game exactly how the settings are meant to be is kinda neat.
Last thing, the zombie modes. As I said I never played the previous treyarch game, so I didn't play the last mode, but this one is pretty damn fun! And funny! Both maps are endlessly entertaining, especially playing as Roosevelt, that's !@#$ing hilarious. The arcade mode is truly an arcade game, very well done and pretty damn addicting. It's too bad you can't have four players on the normal zombie mode, 8(! I've yet to try arcade with four people as I just unlocked it, I'm sure that'd be funny.
Anyways, long post is long, overall I like the game. I don't have much to say bad against it, other than just my general disagreement with the route COD games have gone with very unrealistic styles, which leaves little to immerse myself in. One last thing, as I was skimming through the thread, I read someone comparing COD to Battlefield. Errmm, No. The two games are entirely unrelated, and have completely different styles, and as such shouldn't be compared to each other. Battlefield has its vehicles and huge maps, COD has its small maps and fast-paced combat. I personally wouldn't stand them up next to eachother, it's just personal preference. (I prefer the battlefield series, personally. Go Vehicles!)
Quote from: Lucifer on December 24, 2010, 07:41:17 AM
Last thing, the zombie modes. As I said I never played the previous treyarch game, so I didn't play the last mode, but this one is pretty damn fun! And funny! Both maps are endlessly entertaining, especially playing as Roosevelt, that's !@#$ing hilarious. The arcade mode is truly an arcade game, very well done and pretty damn addicting. It's too bad you can't have four players on the normal zombie mode, 8(! I've yet to try arcade with four people as I just unlocked it, I'm sure that'd be funny.
Theres a glitch that allows that, but it got patched :( if you unpatch it should work, i dont know if it works on PS3 though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfMmXzMnkyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIiZop7kcQI&feature=player_embedded
Quote from: Scotty on January 20, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIiZop7kcQI&feature=player_embedded
Awesome. Gonna go try it now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmQtSeDnMUw&feature=related
Quote from: Mystery on January 20, 2011, 08:20:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmQtSeDnMUw&feature=related
lol, I liked it.
Quote from: stick d00d on January 20, 2011, 07:51:45 PM
Quote from: Scotty on January 20, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIiZop7kcQI&feature=player_embedded
Awesome. Gonna go try it now!
That is old, OLD news man. Most people new about that the day they got the damn game.
Quote from: YayForLife on January 21, 2011, 01:38:29 AM
Quote from: stick d00d on January 20, 2011, 07:51:45 PM
Quote from: Scotty on January 20, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIiZop7kcQI&feature=player_embedded
Awesome. Gonna go try it now!
That is old, OLD news man. Most people new about that the day they got the damn game.
Then why didn't you post it?
I for one did not know this and shall definitely try it out.
Quote from: T-Rok on January 21, 2011, 01:53:38 AM
Quote from: YayForLife on January 21, 2011, 01:38:29 AM
Quote from: stick d00d on January 20, 2011, 07:51:45 PM
Quote from: Scotty on January 20, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIiZop7kcQI&feature=player_embedded
Awesome. Gonna go try it now!
That is old, OLD news man. Most people new about that the day they got the damn game.
Then why didn't you post it?
I for one did not know this and shall definitely try it out.
Because with most people knowing about it, i assumed you guys would to.
Btw, 3ARC UNLOCK unlocks everything, and 3ARC INTEL gives you all intel (not achievements/trophies though)
Quote from: YayForLife on January 21, 2011, 02:48:10 AM
Because with most people knowing about it, i assumed you guys would to.
Apparently that is an inaccurate statement.
Hmm when i start up MP i get the error, Cannot connect to server. After alot of searching all i find is saying im banned, Although I havnt done any hacks or mods, and it worked in my other house but apparently not here. I get the same error with Battlefield bad company 2, Halo reach and Halo 3.
Nat type is Open. Also i forget where i found it but my search type or something is like, A.B.C.D.I.I.I.I.I.I.I And normally should just be alphabetical.
maybe your firewall, router, anti virus. thats all i can think of
Mmm ive portfowarded in theory i turned off my firewall, so i think its my old ass modem.