48?2(9+3) = ?
let the arguments roll!
48/2(9+3)=
48/2(12)=
24(12)=
=About 288
I know some one will try to hound me about how this is wrong but it is correct, you do not multiply you only add because only addition is in the parenthesis.
Edited because of my random eighteen.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/48293
lol, Nice topic. I'm for the 288 and down with all you 2 lovers!
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 05:49:41 PM
48/2(9+3)=
48/18(12)=
2.6666(12)=
=About 31.92
I know some one will try to hound me about how this is wrong but it is correct, you do not multiply you only add because only addition is in the parenthesis.
Where's that 18 coming from? It's either done like this:
48/2(9+3)=
48/2(12)=
24(12)=288 (which is what I believe it to be)
OR
48/2(9+3)=
48/(18+6)=
48/24=
2
Quote from: Tidus on April 12, 2011, 05:54:48 PM
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 05:49:41 PM
48/2(9+3)=
48/18(12)=
2.6666(12)=
=About 31.92
I know some one will try to hound me about how this is wrong but it is correct, you do not multiply you only add because only addition is in the parenthesis.
Where's that 18 coming from? It's either done like this:
48/2(9+3)=
48/2(12)=
24(12)=288 (which is what I believe it to be)
OR
48/2(9+3)=
48/(18+6)=
48/24=
2
Edited dude. Was an accident because I was speaking with some one and I tend to accidentally write things I say. But yeah, first one is right. Multiplication and division have the same priority so the first one would be correct.
There are actually multiple answers you can get from this expression, and I'm not really sure which one is right, or if there is a right answer.. 8)...
The first answer I got was 288.
Using order of operations, do the stuff in the parenthesis first, then multiply from left to right.
48/2(9+3)
48/2(12)
14(12)
288
Then I re-evaluated it... and realized I could have distributed first, getting 2 as an answer.
48/2(9+3)
48/(18+6)
48/24
2
I'm sure there are other ways to evaluate it as well but I just took 2 seconds to look at it and started typing...
Quote from: Kiegruen on April 12, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
There are actually multiple answers you can get from this expression, and I'm not really sure which one is right, or if there is a right answer.. 8)...
The first answer I got was 288.
Using order of operations, do the stuff in the parenthesis first, then multiply from left to right.
48/2(9+3)
48/2(12)
14(12)
288
Then I re-evaluated it... and realized I could have distributed first, getting 2 as an answer.
48/2(9+3)
48/(18+6)
48/24
2
I'm sure there are other ways to evaluate it as well but I just took 2 seconds to look at it and started typing...
The bottom answer isn't correct because you are assuming there is a parenthesis in front of the 2.
This is the actual problem you are solving. 48/(2(9+3)) Because in PEMDAS multiplication and division have the same necessity so you'd go left to right making it impossible to distribute like that.
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 06:12:48 PM
The bottom answer isn't correct because you are assuming there is a parenthesis in front of the 2.
This is the actual problem you are solving. 48/(2(9+3)) Because in PEMDAS multiplication and division have the same necessity so you'd go left to right making it impossible to distribute like that.
(http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/113/276/original/206483_1776491504605_1608886476_1688467_6580770_n.jpg?1302609835)
EDIT: Hmm... maybe I should explain more... I mean, for those who can't understand the power of the above image...
Well... either way you're assuming parenthesis:
Either 48/(2(9+3)) or (48/2)*(9+3).
It really does depend on which order of operations you're following...
He was obviously getting ready to put the two 8's. By the logic of the lower equation the answer should have ended up like this
48/2(9+3)
48/18+6 Once you distribute you don't keep the parenthesis and you'll end up with the same mistake I made the first time before I corrected it.
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 06:17:45 PM
He was obviously getting ready to put the two 8's. By the logic of the lower equation the answer should have ended up like this
48/2(9+3)
48/18+6 Once you distribute you don't keep the parenthesis and you'll end up with the same mistake I made the first time before I corrected it.
Honestly I think it's 288 but I always side with the doubted xD
However, anyone who knows anything about math wouldn't write an expression that way.
Accidental double-post.
Wtf? Accidental triple post?
I agree that this expression is obviously ambiguous, and should have been clarified by additional parenthesis... But, with that said, I also agree with Raeyo on the left to right rule, so it'd be 288 as written.
It's 288, pretty certain of that.
(http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/chatroulette-trolling-or.jpg)
It is indeed 288.
Sorry guys because if you agree with me you?ll no doubt be wrong, but the answer is 2. If you see it as 48/2*(9+3) then you have changed the sequence of operation. Innermost symbol of inclusion but be finished before proceeding from left to right. 2(12) must be completed in its entirity before the division. You can not add implied symbols of inclusion any more than you can change the operational symbols.
It's all explained here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv19iAncrrQ&feature=player_embedded
You only have to do that if its a variable. if you have the answers then it remains how it is and you wouldn't get two even if you did what you are saying since as I said earlier you'd end up with an answer in the decimals. When you distribute you do not keep the parenthesis. For example
5x(x+3)+3 does not equal (5x^2+15x)+3 it equals 5x^2+15x+3
Quote from: Scotty on April 12, 2011, 08:05:10 PM
Sorry guys because if you agree with me you?ll no doubt be wrong, but the answer is 2.
Lol...
Quote from: Lingus on April 12, 2011, 08:14:21 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 12, 2011, 08:05:10 PM
Sorry guys because if you agree with me you?ll no doubt be wrong, but the answer is 2.
Lol...
Trolling attempt unsuccessful raeyo as he eludes reading things properly and continues blissfully unaware! :D
I retract my older post. The old abbreviation I learned in school was "P.E.M.D.A.S/Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally", meaning parentheses, exponent, multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction for the order of operations. This would indeed be the (9+3), equaling 12. The multiplication would then be 2 x (12) being 24. Then 48?24 being 2. The real answering is two although it does kind of make me wonder as to why the picture was made, perhaps it was a troll inside a troll. :o My fault for not bothering to think of it after I saw the picture, it was from today.
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: Lingus on April 12, 2011, 08:14:21 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 12, 2011, 08:05:10 PM
Sorry guys because if you agree with me you?ll no doubt be wrong, but the answer is 2.
Lol...
Trolling attempt unsuccessful raeyo as he eludes reading things properly and continues blissfully unaware! :D
YAHTZEE!
EDIT: Oh, and by the way, for those of you using Google, you're wrong, because it is constructing the equation as (48/2) x (9+3). You have to type it like 48/(2(9+3))
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on April 12, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
I retract my older post. The old abbreviation I learned in school was "P.E.M.D.A.S/Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally", meaning parentheses, exponent, multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction for the order of operations. This would indeed be the (9+3), equaling 12. The multiplication would then be 2 x (12) being 24. Then 48?24 being 2. The real answering is two although it does kind of make me wonder as to why the picture was made, perhaps it was a troll inside a troll. :o My fault for not bothering to think of it after I saw the picture, it was from today.
Multiplication and division as well as addition and subtraction have the same priority so you go left from right.
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on April 12, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
I retract my older post. The old abbreviation I learned in school was "P.E.M.D.A.S/Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally", meaning parentheses, exponent, multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction for the order of operations. This would indeed be the (9+3), equaling 12. The multiplication would then be 2 x (12) being 24. Then 48?24 being 2. The real answering is two although it does kind of make me wonder as to why the picture was made, perhaps it was a troll inside a troll. :o My fault for not bothering to think of it after I saw the picture, it was from today.
Multiplication and division as well as addition and subtraction have the same priority so you go left from right.
Raeyo is a math ninja
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: sly 3 4 me on April 12, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
I retract my older post. The old abbreviation I learned in school was "P.E.M.D.A.S/Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally", meaning parentheses, exponent, multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction for the order of operations. This would indeed be the (9+3), equaling 12. The multiplication would then be 2 x (12) being 24. Then 48÷24 being 2. The real answering is two although it does kind of make me wonder as to why the picture was made, perhaps it was a troll inside a troll. :o My fault for not bothering to think of it after I saw the picture, it was from today.
Multiplication and division as well as addition and subtraction have the same priority so you go left from right.
Was just about to note that after I thought about it again. I guess small tricks learned from over 10 years ago can become blurry after a while. The picture was right. I guess that's why I only received a 32 on the ACT for the math part last year, basic math skills have eluded me.
Quote from: Scotty on April 12, 2011, 08:19:33 PM
YAHTZEE!
EDIT: Oh, and by the way, for those of you using Google, you're wrong, because it is constructing the equation as (48/2) x (9+3). You have to type it like 48/(2(9+3))
I agree with Scotty, the answer is obviously 2. Order of operations is like GML, the creator of the source (in this case, expression) has freedom in expressing the same thing in different ways, and obviously, the guy who wrote this was trying to say 48/(2(9+3)) and not (48/2)*(9+3).
Quote from: Kiegruen on April 12, 2011, 08:29:51 PM
Quote from: Scotty on April 12, 2011, 08:19:33 PM
YAHTZEE!
EDIT: Oh, and by the way, for those of you using Google, you're wrong, because it is constructing the equation as (48/2) x (9+3). You have to type it like 48/(2(9+3))
I agree with Scotty, the answer is obviously 2. Order of operations is like GML, the creator of the source (in this case, expression) has freedom in expressing the same thing in different ways, and obviously, the guy who wrote this was trying to say 48/(2(9+3)) and not (48/2)*(9+3).
Yeah, changing the problem completely to make yourself right makes so much more sense than doing it as it was written. I am a freaking arithmetic nazi. I get heated guys. HEATED!
But naw. I'm over it.
If you took the time to watch Scotties video then you would know the truth.
Quote from: ARTgames on April 12, 2011, 08:39:33 PM
If you took the time to watch Scotties video then you would know the truth.
That people obviously intentionally argue that the answer is 2 just to piss off people who know math?
Quote from: Lingus on April 12, 2011, 08:53:01 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on April 12, 2011, 08:39:33 PM
If you took the time to watch Scotties video then you would know the truth.
That people obviously intentionally argue that the answer is 2 just to piss off people who know math?
It gets good when they start trying to prove their troll logic by using logic I used to prove things wrong.
I might seem umad right nao bros. But far from it. I enjoy conversations like this.
been too many yrs since high school, also i dont even remember the order of operations thing. dont think my school even went over that haha:P i feel so dumb right now
I thought I would try this on one of my steam friends:
QuoteGeneral Wartz: hey are you good at math?
Grundlebear (1): yes
General Wartz: solve this please
General Wartz: 48?2(9+3) = ?
Grundlebear (1): lol
Grundlebear (1): u can't do that?
General Wartz: try it...
Grundlebear (1): 2
General Wartz: no
General Wartz: thats wrong
Grundlebear (1): if you prove me wrong
Grundlebear (1): then i'll go with you
Grundlebear (1): if not i'm correct
General Wartz: i think its 288
Grundlebear (1): no...
Grundlebear (1): its 2
General Wartz: no its 288
General Wartz: look at it again
Grundlebear (1): 9+3 is 12
General Wartz: yes
Grundlebear (1): times 2 is 24
General Wartz: wait
General Wartz: stop right there
General Wartz: 48?2(9+3) = ?
Grundlebear (1): 48/24
General Wartz: hold up
Grundlebear (1): gives you 2
General Wartz: no
General Wartz: wrong
General Wartz: so listen
General Wartz: 9+3 = 12, right?
General Wartz: both multiplication and division have the same priority, right?
General Wartz: so
General Wartz: 24(12) = 288
Grundlebear (1): hm
Grundlebear (1): thats a good act question
Grundlebear (1): although if i were to see it on a magor exam
Grundlebear (1): i would give it more thought
General Wartz: well
Grundlebear (1): then just trying it my head
General Wartz: since they both have the same priority,
General Wartz: dont you read it from left to right?
Grundlebear (1): yes
General Wartz: so it would be 288
Grundlebear (1): i know i did right from left lol
General Wartz: so i am correct and you are wrong?
Grundlebear (1): yes
General Wartz: okay.
General Wartz: thanks.
Grundlebear (1): ok
Grundlebear (1): what was this going to prove
Grundlebear (1): ...?
Grundlebear (1): so?
General Wartz: no further discussion
General Wartz: thanks.
Grundlebear (1): if ur trying to prove ur smarter...i would reconsider
Grundlebear (1): just saying
General Wartz: whats a magor exam?
Grundlebear (1): ACT/SAT
Grundlebear (1): any sort of AP Examp
Grundlebear (1): Exam*
General Wartz: those are "magor" in your opinion
Grundlebear (1): i thinks that it
General Wartz: ?
Grundlebear (1): im focusing the college spectrum
Grundlebear (1): in the*
General Wartz: oh okay.
General Wartz: I don't think any collegs would accept you if you spelled words like "major" as "magor"
Grundlebear (1): i know
General Wartz: okay.
General Wartz: thanks.
Grundlebear (1): but you know whats funny?
General Wartz: this is serious?
Grundlebear (1): i never said the word "major" nor "magor" lol
Grundlebear (1): you did
Grundlebear (1): and you quoted yourself
Grundlebear (1): and corrected yourself
Grundlebear (1): good job
Grundlebear (1): 9:54 PM - General Wartz (1): whats a magor exam?
General Wartz: "Grundlebear (1): although if i were to see it on a magor exam"
Grundlebear (1): then
Grundlebear (1): if you knew i was wrong
Grundlebear (1): why would you make a mistake
Grundlebear (1): and go back up and search for it?
Grundlebear (1): wartz in 7th grade i got a 19 on act
Grundlebear (1): thats the avg of a freshman or sophmore
General Wartz: sounds like a magorly good job.
You guys are crazy... I got 24. :I
Also, I actually got 8.6 repeating.
I used the distributive property, which takes priority to all of your previously stated bullshit. (http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/simplifying/distribution)
Here is my work shown:
(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/7145/482i.png)
I actually tried that before but since the thing has to be read left to right you have to divide before you distribute because that is technically multiplication not parentheses in this case.
*COUGH* Get on my level, sir.
Edit: Underlined a key word from that site for you to see so I can emphasize how awesome I am.
"The Distributive Property is an algebra property which is used to multiply a single term and two or more terms inside a set of parentheses. Take a look at the problem below"
It is using an outside thing to multiply what is inside. Which is usually variables. But in this case it isn't meaning you can add the inside on its own without distributing. But regardless if the number 2 is not in the parentheses it is not considered a parentheses to be done first.
Feels so good.
I'm getting competitive as this goes on.
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 10:49:12 PM
I actually tried that before but since the thing has to be read left to right you have to divide before you distribute because that is technically multiplication not parentheses in this case.
*COUGH* Get on my level, sir.
Edit: Underlined a key word from that site for you to see so I can emphasize how awesome I am.
"The Distributive Property is an algebra property which is used to multiply a single term and two or more terms inside a set of parentheses. Take a look at the problem below"
It is using an outside thing to multiply what is inside. Which is usually variables. But in this case it isn't meaning you can add the inside on its own without distributing. But regardless if the number 2 is not in the parentheses it is not considered a parentheses to be done first.
Feels so good.
I'm getting competitive as this goes on.
You couldn't have let a couple other unknowing individual post first before you shot down my troll? >:(
Quote from: Lingus on April 12, 2011, 08:53:01 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on April 12, 2011, 08:39:33 PM
If you took the time to watch Scotties video then you would know the truth.
That people obviously intentionally argue that the answer is 2 just to piss off people who know math?
Yeah that's about it.
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on April 12, 2011, 11:20:21 PM
Quote from: raeyo on April 12, 2011, 10:49:12 PM
I actually tried that before but since the thing has to be read left to right you have to divide before you distribute because that is technically multiplication not parentheses in this case.
*COUGH* Get on my level, sir.
Edit: Underlined a key word from that site for you to see so I can emphasize how awesome I am.
"The Distributive Property is an algebra property which is used to multiply a single term and two or more terms inside a set of parentheses. Take a look at the problem below"
It is using an outside thing to multiply what is inside. Which is usually variables. But in this case it isn't meaning you can add the inside on its own without distributing. But regardless if the number 2 is not in the parentheses it is not considered a parentheses to be done first.
Feels so good.
I'm getting competitive as this goes on.
You couldn't have let a couple other unknowing individual post first before you shot down my troll? >:(
I like to troll the trolls with my troll tactic of unknowingly trolling you bruv.
Wait lulwut?
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on April 12, 2011, 10:16:32 PM
Also, I actually got 8.6 repeating.
I used the distributive property, which takes priority to all of your previously stated bullshit. (http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/simplifying/distribution)
Here is my work shown:
(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/7145/482i.png)
You have to do this:
48/2(9+3)
24(9+3)
216+72
288
K?
48?2(9+3) = x
1. 48?2(9+3) = x
2. 48?2(12) Parentheses first
3. 24(12) Divide
4. 288 Multiply by distributing.
Answer is 288
------------------------------------------------------------------
48?2(9+3) = x
1. 48?2(9+3) = x
2. 48?2(12) Parentheses first
3. 48?24 Distribute multiply
4. 2 Divide
Answer is 2
Which one? Divide first or multiple first?
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on April 12, 2011, 10:16:32 PM
Also, I actually got 8.6 repeating.
I used the distributive property, which takes priority to all of your previously stated bullshit. (http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/simplifying/distribution)
Here is my work shown:
(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/7145/482i.png)
Pwnage you don't distribute first even i went to that website u posted and it does parentheses first!
Quote from: Forum on April 16, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on April 12, 2011, 10:16:32 PM
Also, I actually got 8.6 repeating.
I used the distributive property, which takes priority to all of your previously stated bullshit. (http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/simplifying/distribution)
Here is my work shown:
(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/7145/482i.png)
Pwnage you don't distribute first even i went to that website u posted and it does parentheses first!
Congratulations for stating the obvious! I had already said above I was joking... :-\
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on April 16, 2011, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: Forum on April 16, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on April 12, 2011, 10:16:32 PM
Also, I actually got 8.6 repeating.
I used the distributive property, which takes priority to all of your previously stated bullshit. (http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/simplifying/distribution)
Here is my work shown:
(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/7145/482i.png)
Pwnage you don't distribute first even i went to that website u posted and it does parentheses first!
Congratulations for stating the obvious! I had already said above I was joking... :-\
You oviously failed then.
Quote from: Forum on April 16, 2011, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on April 16, 2011, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: Forum on April 16, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on April 12, 2011, 10:16:32 PM
Also, I actually got 8.6 repeating.
I used the distributive property, which takes priority to all of your previously stated bullshit. (http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/simplifying/distribution)
Here is my work shown:
(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/7145/482i.png)
Pwnage you don't distribute first even i went to that website u posted and it does parentheses first!
Congratulations for stating the obvious! I had already said above I was joking... :-\
You oviously failed then.
Oh lord, why must you humor me with so much irony?! Seriously, I must resist. Your thread is win Scott, so much win. Had I known the number 288 acted has a light source to curious bugs I surely would have taken advantage of it sooner.
48?2(9+3) = ?
9 + 3 = 12
48?2(12)
48/2 = 24
24 * 12 = 288.
That's what I got. Multiplication does not have priority over division.
It is 288.
yep.
48/2(9+3) = 288
(9+3)48/2 = 288
48(9+3)/2 = 288
It just can't be 2.
48/2 = (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9692/glbaumschreibenphp.png) (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/glbaumschreibenphp.png/); it's 48 half, meaning 24 times the parentheses.