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Title: 2012 theory
Post by: wrinkles on December 22, 2009, 01:58:55 AM
Do you beleive in 2012?

write your comments whether it is for or against the theory.. or even if u dont know about it lol
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: JoEL on December 22, 2009, 02:26:58 AM
Nope, theres a theory we are decedents of fish. I don't believe any theories unless there are facts to prove them. Which wouldn't quite make it a theory anymore...
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Jake on December 22, 2009, 02:37:21 AM
Quote from: wrinkles on December 22, 2009, 01:58:55 AM
Do you beleive in 2012?

write your comments whether it is for or against the theory.. or even if u dont know about it lol
I believe in 2012 just like I believe in Tuesday.

If you're talking about the stupid-stitions about December 21, 2012 or whatever... I think it's a bunch of bull crap with some people trying to jam puzzle pieces together that don't fit.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Chaos on December 22, 2009, 02:58:51 AM
Ironic.  I was just chatting with Jake earlier today about this.  My statement was something along these lines:

"I can't wait til Christmas Eve, 2012.  Gonna be sittin' back, chillin with my relatives, and laughing my ASS off at the idiots who thought the world was going to end the day before (or 3 days before, depending on which kind of idiot you are)."

Seriously.  There isn't a SINGLE (YES, SINGLE) piece of evidence that even remotely SUGGESTS that the world would end in 2012.  And no, some random ancient culture happening to only make their calendars up to a particular date does not count as proof.

Honestly, I'm tolerant of people's interests and beliefs, but this shit is where I draw the line.  At least the bullshit panic about Y2k had a basis within reality.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: DarkBlade325 on December 22, 2009, 05:44:03 AM
Quote from: Chaos on December 22, 2009, 02:58:51 AM
Seriously.  There isn't a SINGLE (YES, SINGLE) piece of evidence that even remotely SUGGESTS that the world would end in 2012.  And no, some random ancient culture happening to only make their calendars up to a particular date does not count as proof.

They're just like "!@#$ this, this is going on and on and on. Screw this calendar, no one in the right mind will even follow it for any reason anyways...Right?"

Also since when does one "ancient culture" decide the end of the world? Okay okay, here I am. I want you all to listen to me. Okay, yah listening?


World will end the last day of this December, mark my words! Go, cower under the bed! In other words.. I agree Chaos.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: yottabyte on December 22, 2009, 06:34:27 AM
No. No, I don't.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Riserva on December 22, 2009, 08:21:12 AM
Quote from: wrinkles on December 22, 2009, 01:58:55 AM
Do you beleive in 2012?

write your comments whether it is for or against the theory.. or even if u dont know about it lol

Do I believe in the world ending in 2012? God no. JninjaJ is always stating: THE WORLD'S GOING TO END!

All I can reply with is: Prove it.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: wrinkles on December 22, 2009, 09:56:23 AM
i found this website at this moment which proves 2012 does not end

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6534662/Mayan-2012-apocalypse-theory-not-true-Nasa-says.html

If you beleive in 2012 read below.. if u don.. dont bother as u arecorrect  ;D 
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Jackabomb on December 22, 2009, 10:49:57 AM
I believe the world could end on 2012. However, I don't think it's more or less likely to end then as it might end tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Lucifer on December 22, 2009, 11:02:14 AM
The "world ending", I doubt it. A mass extinction, or at least the removal of humans as the dominant species? Could happen. Either way theres no need to make too much of a fuss about it. Think of it this way, without humans, other species will have way more of a chance to evolve, and perhaps the world will make an even more intelligent design than us.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: foG on December 22, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
the incas just didnt have enough rock plates to carve another 1000 years in stone :P
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Chaos on December 22, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: Jackabomb on December 22, 2009, 10:49:57 AM
I believe the world could end on 2012. However, I don't think it's more or less likely to end then as it might end tomorrow.

Right, I should have mentioned that.  The world COULD end in 2012, yes.  It could also end TOMORROW.

However, I should point out that, the world is slightly MORE likely to end on December 21(23), 2012, simply because of a little thing called 'self-fulfilling prophecy'.  Because there are people who believe it, there are people who would act (intentionally or unintentionally) to make it actually happen.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Delicious on December 22, 2009, 03:57:26 PM
There are evidence that suggests a polar shift may occur with the allignment of the planets on December 2012... Can't remember what it said exactly or where I read it from though.  :-\
I don't believe that any of the theories are true, and I stand by many others saying that at any moment the world for human civilization could end, not just that certain day.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: DarkTrinity on December 22, 2009, 05:45:17 PM
I personally call bullshit. I've heard many theories and the one I find most believable is that the ancient cultures thought that 2012 would be a time of change.... Change in what? Who knows. But amongst all the talk, I can see reason in some type of change. I've heard polar shifts, something to do with outer space, whatever...
The world ending? sure, go spend all your money, take a bunch of vacations, travel the world. Everyone will laugh their ass off at you when the world doesnt end and you're stuck in the shitter cause you're a twat who believes morons who say the world will end just like they have since man could spread stupid theories.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: ARTgames on December 22, 2009, 05:54:54 PM
2012 = Y2k
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Jake on December 22, 2009, 06:07:20 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on December 22, 2009, 05:54:54 PM
2012 = Y2k
Except it's less likely.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Lingus on December 22, 2009, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on December 22, 2009, 05:54:54 PM
2012 = Y2k
Agreed. It's the next End of the World scare. After 2012 there will be another. Given enough time and enough will, people will find hidden messages in whatever they want.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: DarkBlade325 on December 22, 2009, 06:38:31 PM
Quote from: Lingus on December 22, 2009, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: ARTgames on December 22, 2009, 05:54:54 PM
2012 = Y2k
Agreed. It's the next End of the World scare. After 2012 there will be another. Given enough time and enough will, people will find hidden messages in whatever they want.

I found one in a water bottle. It said "Aquafina".

We're all going to die of some freak flood.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: swordmaster on December 22, 2009, 07:17:17 PM
no, the Mayans don't want to make any more years on the Mayan calender so they think the world will end
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Delicious on December 22, 2009, 08:43:45 PM
Here is a beautiful animation of how it would look when Nibru (Second sun) crashed onto our earth. I believe this is one of the most major theories that many believe would occur.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyPy-a7HrnE&feature=fvw

Also, watch this video if you have time, it's fairly interesting... (1 of 6 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtgPaggeTM&feature=related

Never knew that we had the technology such as the "Web-bot". After watching, I may believe that 2012 will happen.  :-\
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Epsilon72200 on December 22, 2009, 10:00:58 PM
Am I the only one that found the ending in that first video hilarious?
This whole 2012 thing seems like some economy/religion-related ploy to me. XD I'm probably wrong though, could just be silly people with too much time on their hands.

If this really still has anything to do with the Mayan calanders, since when do un-advanced civilizations have the science to determine the end of the world?
But hey, I might have read this all wrong, I just barely heard about this today. D:
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Pat on December 24, 2009, 10:03:19 PM
2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73hH8fx4hEg !!!
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: God-I-Suck on December 24, 2009, 10:32:58 PM
Man, the scene with the 4 giants holding up the moon in that game is so epic.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: DarkBlade325 on December 25, 2009, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: God-I-Suck on December 24, 2009, 10:32:58 PM
Man, the scene with the 4 giants holding up the moon in that game is so epic.

That moon made me shit my pants way back. It still kinda does.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Pat on December 26, 2009, 09:11:11 AM
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on December 25, 2009, 12:54:07 PM
That moon made me shit my pants way back. It still kinda does.
Yea luckly nowadays we have rockets and stuff that goes boom just incase this happens
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Grim_Reaper on December 28, 2009, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: Delicious on December 22, 2009, 08:43:45 PM
Here is a beautiful animation of how it would look when Nibru (Second sun) crashed onto our earth. I believe this is one of the most major theories that many believe would occur.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyPy-a7HrnE&feature=fvw

Also, watch this video if you have time, it's fairly interesting... (1 of 6 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtgPaggeTM&feature=related

Never knew that we had the technology such as the "Web-bot". After watching, I may believe that 2012 will happen.  :-\
If anything like that happened the earth would be preparing for it. Plus if that was going to happen (first vid) we would know it by now cause of our satalites and high powered telescopes.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Lingus on December 28, 2009, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Grim_Reaper on December 28, 2009, 05:26:51 PM
Plus if that was going to happen (first vid) we would know it by now cause of our satalites and high powered telescopes.
Not necessarily. There are blind spots and such. Not to mention it's extremely difficult to spot a single object out in space. We can't scan the entirety of the sky at all times. What I believe they do is scan different sections of the sky at intervals and look for differences. Those differences are objects that are closer to us, because they are moving faster in our frame of view than objects much farther out. It is possible that an object can be missed.

I do have to say, I have yet to hear why people actually think the world will "end". All I have seen is examples of how the world will end. Solar flares, rogue planets, etc. But what proof is there that this will definitely occur on 12/21/2012? Just because a few different cultures in history have pointed to that date? Are those referrences even exact? Or has someone taken all of those referrences and interpretted each one as falling on 12/21/2012? If so, I would pass that off as someone messing with the numbers. Probably not purposefully, but if that someone had been expecting to get a certain result, such as the exact date of 12/21/12, then they would be more likely to arive at that result. That's just how it works.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Looperpuck on December 28, 2009, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: Delicious on December 22, 2009, 08:43:45 PM
Here is a beautiful animation of how it would look when Nibru (Second sun) crashed onto our earth. I believe this is one of the most major theories that many believe would occur.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyPy-a7HrnE&feature=fvw

Also, watch this video if you have time, it's fairly interesting... (1 of 6 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtgPaggeTM&feature=related

Never knew that we had the technology such as the "Web-bot". After watching, I may believe that 2012 will happen.  :-\

Nice Video finds Del. But out of all the 6 I have watched.... This one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txFNP3A5WnM&feature=related Seemed to freak me out the most.

I can't say I believe in the 2012 disaster. But from what I've seen in these videos from the olden day Prophecies and Oracles have made great predictions on what has actually happened. And almost all of them have predicted a disaster in 2012. Some things that shocked me the most is that some Oracles have predicted rising kings over 800 years before being born, by name. Thats either a pretty good guess, or they knew something nobody else could ever know.

~Looperpuck
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Lingus on December 28, 2009, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: Looperpuck on December 28, 2009, 07:10:59 PMI can't say I believe in the 2012 disaster. But from what I've seen in these videos from the olden day Prophecies and Oracles have made great predictions on what has actually happened. And almost all of them have predicted a disaster in 2012. Some things that shocked me the most is that some Oracles have predicted rising kings over 800 years before being born, by name. Thats either a pretty good guess, or they knew something nobody else could ever know.
I don't know. I still have a hard time believing in this kind of thing. There's a lot of factors that could cause some "prophecy" to come true. Time being the biggest one. It's no wonder we're seeing prophesies from a thousand or more years ago coming true. It's so much time that it allows for those events to happen. Eventually, everything occurs. Then there is the fact that most of these things are very vague and general. They use terms and phrases that can be interpretted in several different ways. Fire reigning from the sky could be any number of events. I know some are more specific than that, but it's an example. You also have the whole self fulfilling prophecy as Chaos mentioned. People learn of a prophecy either directly or indirectly, and they act towards fulfilling it in some way. Then you have translation error. This, I'm sure, accounts for quite a lot. If someone is translating something, and they have something in mind already, they could skew the results of the translation in favor of the prophecy being related to something it should not be. Same with dates. Considering the different calenders being used by different cultures, the dates they use have to be translated to our calender. These translations can be wrong as they are just estimates and best guesses in some cases. Take enough of these errors and you can do whatever you want with the numbers. Take six different dates from six different culture's calenders and claim they are referring to the same date.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Scotty on December 28, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
That's the thing, there isn't any proof Lingus.  While the Mayans didn't intend for it, their philosophies are playing on human's natural superstition.  We let this stuff get to us too easily.  All it is, is a bunch of predictions that people are too superstitious to not consider a possibility. 
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: yottabyte on December 29, 2009, 07:59:24 AM
I'll give you $1,000,000 if the world ends in 2012.


oh wait...
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Jackabomb on December 29, 2009, 12:30:21 PM
How many people would be stupid enough to take you up on your offer though?
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: DarkBlade325 on December 29, 2009, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: Jackabomb on December 29, 2009, 12:30:21 PM
How many people would be stupid enough to take you up on your offer though?

You're on yotta!

..Wait is it okay if I don't believe it will end? Earth just has to go boom, right?
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Jackabomb on December 29, 2009, 04:38:29 PM
Sorry, darkblade, hoaxes don't count if that's what you were thinking.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Demeni on December 29, 2009, 07:53:20 PM
I believe it will end in 2012! Just like I believed it would end in 2000! Also, if it doesn't end in 2012, someone will just say it will end, five years later. You'd have to be an idiot to believe this crap. The world isn't gonna end!!!
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Pat on December 30, 2009, 12:40:22 AM
The world did end in 2000, you just don't know it yet.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Red October on December 30, 2009, 02:07:36 AM
I love ends of the world! I'll just go to another end of the world party!
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Pat on December 30, 2009, 02:15:25 AM
Does anyone else think the suicide count in 2012 will be higher than on new years 2000?
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: DivineLegend on December 30, 2009, 02:21:49 AM
most likely.... wouldn't suprise me.... good riddance though to the stupid people killing themselves... dont need them breeding making babies with the same idealistics as their parents... then we would have even more stupid people... and hell if the world does blow up in 2012 or something... its not like we are gonna sit in agony as poison leeches our strength from us, no, we will die pretty much instantly... so the !@#$ with it i say
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Pat on December 30, 2009, 02:52:54 AM
Quote from: DivineLegend on December 30, 2009, 02:21:49 AM
most likely.... wouldn't suprise me.... good riddance though to the stupid people killing themselves...
Even if they are stupid, they created these theories which drew in more people. Its not their fault and no one deserves to die for being stupid.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: Jackabomb on December 30, 2009, 01:59:42 PM
^Truth.
Title: Re: 2012 theory
Post by: DivineLegend on December 30, 2009, 07:49:39 PM
good point