I'm HeroicHero.
I have never played Stick Online 1 or 2 but I lurk around these forums looking at post, pictures, etc. I think Stick Online is awesome! I'm currently waiting for SO3.
Anyways, I have scripted a flash version of Stick - Online. All though the simulator is not entirely visually accurate (as I don't have much access to images), I would like to integrate all the cool ideas that you guys have come up with and add them in here (ie: perhaps vehicles, skills, monsters etc). Try not to make them too complex as I'm some-what of a beginner at flash. I will try to update it as fast possible (if you don't know, scripting is adobe flash takes some time).
Sprites by:
Meuin, Ceroblitz, some by me
Here is the link to the game:
http://jkandrew.deviantart.com/art/Stick-Online-Simulator-149134263
A = Attack
UP = Jump
Left Right arrows = Move
Down Arrow = Enter doors
---V0.06---
-Added pets system (If you could provide a sprite sheet with movement sprites (wings flapping), attacking, etc, I will add it in)
-Quest Headquarters
...why?
Err, isn't this against the rules? You're using sprites without permission...
Yay for fake Stick online! /sarcasm. Yeah...why did you make this exactly?
~Looperpuck
To simulate ideas and put them into action. hmmm... I guess I'll just delete it.
As long as you ask people before you do it, I see nothing wrong with this. Actually I think it's rather awesome, in response to those asking why, wouldn't you like to see your ideas in action? To see whether or not they would Actually fit into the game? You can never really know if your idea is complete crap unless you can actually see it in action, and if this person is willing to go through the trouble to integrate your sprites into a flash representation, why not?
Anyways, I'd love to see some more of Cero's sprites in there, be sure to ask him!
P.S. d00d, and anyone else bitching about stolen sprites, honestly it's just the BBB, the shop, and the character. He isn't making his own game. That's like saying an information website like http://www.jesusland.tk/ is stealing sprites. (My opinion, of course.)
P.P.S. Welcome to the forums Hero.
Quote from: Lucifer on January 04, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
As long as you ask people before you do it, I see nothing wrong with this.
He hasn't asked Meiun or CeroBlitz. So this project is against copyright laws.
Quote from: Red October on January 04, 2010, 06:14:06 AM
Quote from: Lucifer on January 04, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
As long as you ask people before you do it, I see nothing wrong with this.
He hasn't asked Meiun or CeroBlitz. So this project is against copyright laws.
Oh get that dick out of your ass. Obviously he should have asked them Before making it, but theres no harm done at all. But for the sake of appeasing the assholes of the community, remove the link for now, go ask Meiun and Ceroblitz, done deal.
Or heck just take out the shop, turn the BBB purple, and make the gold little peices of moldy crap, walah, don't even need to ask Meiun.
(joking)
Hm, this is a little interesting.. You can do aerial attacks if you jump and attack. O:
Okay, I'll ask Meiun and CeroBlitz for their approval. I'll remove their sprites immediately if they don't approve.
You should of asked for permission before using their sprites, but I like this simulator. Now we can see if our ideas would really work with the game!
Quote from: Red October on January 04, 2010, 06:14:06 AM
Quote from: Lucifer on January 04, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
As long as you ask people before you do it, I see nothing wrong with this.
So this project is against copyright laws.
... What copyright laws... Show me the patent.
For having never played the game at all before, this is pretty decent.
Quote from: Scotty on January 04, 2010, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Red October on January 04, 2010, 06:14:06 AM
Quote from: Lucifer on January 04, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
As long as you ask people before you do it, I see nothing wrong with this.
So this project is against copyright laws.
... What copyright laws... Show me the patent.
Forgive me if I'm wrong on this, but a copyright and patent are two different things. Stick Online is an expressive medium owned by Meiun, therefore he has basic copyrights over it.
"Copyright applies to any expressible form of an idea or information that is substantive and discrete and fixed in a medium." - Wikipedia
There's no need for a patent.
I asked Meiun and he said he was okay with it, as long as I make it clear that it's a fan project and that the graphics do not belong to me.
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 04, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
I asked Meiun and he said he was okay with it, as long as I make it clear that it's a fan project and that the graphics do not belong to me.
Yea I like the idea I was just saying you should've asked before using the sprites, nice work btw would like to see more :P.
I love how each and every person has to come on here and post the same exact thing to make them look all righteous and mighty. >.> Its been said once, not everyone needs to say it.
Either way, I love that animation Cero has, and it looks awesome in there. I hope you continue this. :)
Quote from: Jake on January 04, 2010, 05:45:17 PM
Quote from: Scotty on January 04, 2010, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Red October on January 04, 2010, 06:14:06 AM
Quote from: Lucifer on January 04, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
As long as you ask people before you do it, I see nothing wrong with this.
So this project is against copyright laws.
... What copyright laws... Show me the patent.
Forgive me if I'm wrong on this, but a copyright and patent are two different things. Stick Online is an expressive medium owned by Meiun, therefore he has basic copyrights over it.
"Copyright applies to any expressible form of an idea or information that is substantive and discrete and fixed in a medium." - Wikipedia
There's no need for a patent.
My point is, Stick Online has not been registered and does not show up in the public catalog under the copyright office (I just checked). Yes, someone stealing his original works of art is illegal. Now the catchy part is, what is going to happen if they do. He could send a Cease and Desist letter insisting them to stop, and even pay for damages, but being that he isn't registered, they could easily turn that around on him, register their work, and claim he is the true infringer. He cannot sue for monetary gain and have the court pay him for damages since he is not registered. He COULD try to sue them if the cease and desist letter has no effect, but at most, that will just shut down the operation.
Case in point, if someone was to go and steal any of this work right now, the biggest thing Meiun could do is demand them to stop and pay money. Whether or not they do, well that's up to them. At the very most, at a high cost for Meiun, he could have the court shut them down (if they are in America, if not, it gets REALLY hairy), since his not registered, and has not payed the fees.
I don't see any problems with this. He didn't intend on claiming the sprites as his own, nor did he have any intention to keep the project from Stick Online's knowledge. Hero infact gave it to us, as a way to make our ideas possible.
Anyway, on topic. The BBB is moving too slowly.
Changed the BBB speed, but I dunno what his speed is exactly.
Anyone have any ideas that I should add into the game?
Attack is S, A is jump, down is duck (for higher jump). I think you should add an inventory for items people suggest, screenshots of all these can be found in the Media forum.
~Aqua
I'm sure, since ceroblitz made his sprites with some sort of GIF animator, he mostly likely has sprite sheets that you could use if he gives you permission. Also, be sure to give him credit in game, I'm not sure if its there or just on the the forum.
Also, I can activate your account for you if you want me to. I was planning on donating more anyways.
Quote from: Demeni on January 04, 2010, 08:05:09 PM
I'm sure, since ceroblitz made his sprites with some sort of GIF animator, he mostly likely has sprite sheets that you could use if he gives you permission. Also, be sure to give him credit in game, I'm not sure if its there or just on the the forum.
Also, I can activate your account for you if you want me to. I was planning on donating more anyways.
Demeni, that would be so awesome! I owe you! :o
Sure, but don't expect it for a few days. I need to get the $5 in, and then I need to have you message Meiun with username and password so I don't know what it is. I'll send you a message when I need you to do something like that.
Quote from: Scotty on January 04, 2010, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: Jake on January 04, 2010, 05:45:17 PM
Quote from: Scotty on January 04, 2010, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Red October on January 04, 2010, 06:14:06 AM
Quote from: Lucifer on January 04, 2010, 06:04:48 AM
As long as you ask people before you do it, I see nothing wrong with this.
So this project is against copyright laws.
... What copyright laws... Show me the patent.
Forgive me if I'm wrong on this, but a copyright and patent are two different things. Stick Online is an expressive medium owned by Meiun, therefore he has basic copyrights over it.
"Copyright applies to any expressible form of an idea or information that is substantive and discrete and fixed in a medium." - Wikipedia
There's no need for a patent.
My point is, Stick Online has not been registered and does not show up in the public catalog under the copyright office (I just checked). Yes, someone stealing his original works of art is illegal. Now the catchy part is, what is going to happen if they do. He could send a Cease and Desist letter insisting them to stop, and even pay for damages, but being that he isn't registered, they could easily turn that around on him, register their work, and claim he is the true infringer. He cannot sue for monetary gain and have the court pay him for damages since he is not registered. He COULD try to sue them if the cease and desist letter has no effect, but at most, that will just shut down the operation.
Case in point, if someone was to go and steal any of this work right now, the biggest thing Meiun could do is demand them to stop and pay money. Whether or not they do, well that's up to them. At the very most, at a high cost for Meiun, he could have the court shut them down (if they are in America, if not, it gets REALLY hairy), since his not registered, and has not payed the fees.
I believe Meiun would be able to prove his ownership based on date. Since his files would be older than anyone elses, it would stand up. I believe that is how it works. At least I know that is how it works with music. Once you record it, it becomes copyright. If you can prove the date you recorded it, you have enough proof against anyone claiming it is their original work.
Wow, Cero's Inferno Sword animation is incredibly fluid. I wouldn't mind seeing that in SOv2.
Pfft...you all really need to get the sand out of your vaginas...this kid is clearly maturer than most we have been getting and puts some effort into his works...He obviously had no intention of stealing...Christ some of you just act like you were born just today sometimes. Anyways, it's kinda neat. Nothing too special, but I like how fluid the animation looks and the fact you can attack in mid air is pretty neat and looks in-place aswell. Nice work.
I agree that Cero's animations are smooth, but they don't fit in with Stick Online v2's animation style.
Quote from: Pat on January 04, 2010, 11:54:04 PM
I agree that Cero's animations are smooth, but they don't fit in with Stick Online v2's animation style.
Which doesn't really matter seeing as they weren't made for V2 at all...
ohman, this is some real nice work. How long did it take you overall.
I love the way aerial attacks are put in there and work perfectly.
i think it will be cool when u add snow :-X what is the program that you use
Quote from: Sido on January 05, 2010, 11:06:13 AM
i think it will be cool when u add snow :-X what is the program that you use
I use Adobe Flash CS3.
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 05, 2010, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: Sido on January 05, 2010, 11:06:13 AM
i think it will be cool when u add snow :-X what is the program that you use
I use Adobe Flash CS3.
haha, whatelse. :D
I can't figure out how to see other items... Or is the fake inferno the only one you have so far?
I'm actually waiting for people to SUGGEST items that I can implement into the game.
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 05, 2010, 05:43:27 PM
I'm actually waiting for people to SUGGEST items that I can implement into the game.
See, the only thing that I was skeptical about, was that this would turn into a
game... rather than a
simulator.
Other than that, you have done quite a fine job.
Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on January 05, 2010, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 05, 2010, 05:43:27 PM
I'm actually waiting for people to SUGGEST items that I can implement into the game.
See, the only thing that I was skeptical about, was that this would turn into a game... rather than a simulator.
Other than that, you have done quite a fine job.
My bad. I meant to say simulator. I'm definitely not going to turn this into a game.
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 05, 2010, 05:43:27 PM
I'm actually waiting for people to SUGGEST items that I can implement into the game.
I see. What if you go into some of the topics in the suggestion section and ask the person if you could add their sprites to the simulator. I believe Cero and Pwnage both have topics with a bunch of item sprites in them. It would benefit them since they could see what their sprites look like in context.
I like how you can attack in the air ::)
Not sure if anyone thought of this idea yet, but I added a guy that can teleport you to different areas. Would be a nice way to get around long distances. It costs gold, however.
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 05, 2010, 10:25:58 PM
Not sure if anyone thought of this idea yet, but I added a guy that can teleport you to different areas. Would be a nice way to get around long distances. It costs gold, however.
Yeah, that's what I call a simulator. :-\
When i press the down button,the character gets all buggy.
You really need a Running animation.
I made this a couple weeks ago when I had some free time. I'm pretty sure it's these 6 frames.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/23udkxt.gif)
Here's also the jumping image.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hi5mv4.gif)
All you need now is ducking, kicking, punching, hats and more weapons and you have a done simulator. :P
edit: I have 112 gold on stick-simulator online! This game pwns!
When you duck down, You can still move around while being in duck mode and if your still moving around in duck mode and swing your IS Then it goes buggy and doesn't move till you swing your IS properly. You should fix that:)
Quote from: yottabyte on January 06, 2010, 06:56:24 AM
I made this a couple weeks ago when I had some free time. I'm pretty sure it's these 6 frames.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/23udkxt.gif)
Here's also the jumping image.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hi5mv4.gif)
All you need now is ducking, kicking, punching, hats and more weapons and you have a done simulator. :P
edit: I have 112 gold on stick-simulator online! This game pwns!
Thanks for the sprites yottabyte. :)
you can jump and swing IS in air lol :D
Wow, I looked forward to this and now it's uh dying.
And that was any surprise?
Lol, why would you be looking forward to it?
i'm sure he was wanting to see some ideas people had come up with put into action...
heres an idea.. balaclava - think thats how you spell it :)
Quote from: DivineLegend on January 13, 2010, 12:19:40 AM
i'm sure he was wanting to see some ideas people had come up with put into action...
Yeah I wanted to See Some of the Ideas in action... :/
One complain , I really think that you should fix the attack range , the BBB is right next to me , the IS passed through it , but no damage. The only way you can hit it , is when it is as close to you. Either way , awesome simulator , works for me.
Sorry I couldn't update it. I'm real busy with school work. I'll try to update it by tonight.
By the way, I did work on an update a day or two ago, I just haven't uploaded it. So I didn't forget about this little project. >_>
Ok I finished the update. Added two new weapons. And fixed that range problem.
Quote from: Chaos on January 12, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
And that was any surprise?
O yee of little faith :(
The two new weapons look awesome Heroic, keep it up! It's really nice to see Cero's sprites in action.
That shotgun sprite makes me wish SO was a zombie shooter...
i noticed the shotgun doesn't hit the bbb unless it is pretty much at the very end of its range
Also if you and dont move < or > you still have the standing sprite :P
Quote from: YayForLife on January 15, 2010, 01:32:05 AM
Also if you and dont move < or > you still have the standing sprite :P
My bad. Fixed. I'm going to bed.
One more request , if you have some time , would you mind changing the respawn button so you can spawn more than 1 BBB? And about area 2 maybe some monsters there , I am not rushing , just giving some ideas.
oh wow, this actually plays smoothier than coded with gamemaker.
I think SO gameplay should be coded in flash & the backend engine + connecting of hosts should be done by a j2se.
edit:
before anyone asks. Yes you can embed flash objects in java based application without problems. (e.g. Adobe flash islands(Had to do that for my job once))
It only looks smoother because its running at a higher FPS (it seems) and the view moves differently.
It runs at 30 fps... Which is pretty standard.
Is there going to be a new update , soon?
Yep. Working on the pet system and the Quest HQ. Might be done by either tonight or tomorrow morning.
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 18, 2010, 01:08:51 AM
Yep. Working on the pet system and the Quest HQ. Might be done by either tonight or tomorrow morning.
Pet system Cool Maybe like a Soul Gaurdien ;)
5 pages into this topic i still fail to see how this has anything to do with Ideas & Suggestions for stick online. Shouldn't this be off topic or Media? I know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model. Its more like your making stick offline.
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 01:43:34 AM
5 pages into this topic i still fail to see how this has anything to do with Ideas & Suggestions for stick online. Shouldn't this be off topic or Media? I know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model. Its more like your making stick offline.
I'm just replicating Sainomi idea of the Quest HQ and someone's idea of pets (not sure who's, but I saw it around here). They're ideas and I'm just presenting them in a different form, so why can't it belong in the Ideas & Suggestions section? And I would never make a stick offline because this little simulator probably wouldn't hold anyone's attention for over 2 minutes.
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 18, 2010, 01:52:23 AM
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 01:43:34 AM
5 pages into this topic i still fail to see how this has anything to do with Ideas & Suggestions for stick online. Shouldn't this be off topic or Media? I know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model. Its more like your making stick offline.
I'm just replicating Sainomi idea of the Quest HQ and someone's idea of pets (not sure who's, but I saw it around here). They're ideas and I'm just presenting them in a different form, so why can't it belong in the Ideas & Suggestions section? And I would never make a stick offline because this little simulator probably wouldn't hold anyone's attention for over 2 minutes.
thats true The purpose of this simulater is too check the ideas on stick online but on a flash
Oh yeah hero can i Help
QuoteThey're ideas and I'm just presenting them in a different form, so why can't it belong in the Ideas & Suggestions section?
QuoteI know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model.
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 01:55:47 AM
QuoteThey're ideas and I'm just presenting them in a different form, so why can't it belong in the Ideas & Suggestions section?
QuoteI know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model.
It's accurate enough. Besides, Stick Online 3 isn't going to look exactly like #2, so why does he even have to fit a model at all? Just think of it as a visual example, instead of someone writing down a suggestion.
Quote from: Lucifer on January 18, 2010, 01:58:45 AM
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 01:55:47 AM
QuoteThey're ideas and I'm just presenting them in a different form, so why can't it belong in the Ideas & Suggestions section?
QuoteI know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model.
It's accurate enough. Besides, Stick Online 3 isn't going to look exactly like #2, so why does he even have to fit a model at all? Just think of it as a visual example, instead of someone writing down a suggestion.
Of course its not going to look the Same -_-"
But Still Until S03 Comes we will make a simulaters of it
too Were doing S02 now I know there might be
no updates for S02 but -_- Its ideas not
Graphics
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 01:55:47 AM
QuoteThey're ideas and I'm just presenting them in a different form, so why can't it belong in the Ideas & Suggestions section?
QuoteI know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model.
I meant changing them from text to flash. I know I can't make it very the simulator very accurate to S02 (both visually and in-code), because I'm kinda inexperienced, but I'm trying my best to do so. If there aren't any users that want me to continue this, I'll simply stop doing doing it.
I really like this simulator because since i haven't played Stick Online since the donor server came out, this really amuses me. Thanks for this :)
Quote from: Lucifer on January 18, 2010, 01:58:45 AM
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 01:55:47 AM
QuoteThey're ideas and I'm just presenting them in a different form, so why can't it belong in the Ideas & Suggestions section?
QuoteI know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model.
It's accurate enough. Besides, Stick Online 3 isn't going to look exactly like #2, so why does he even have to fit a model at all? Just think of it as a visual example, instead of someone writing down a suggestion.
I fail to see how this is accurate enough to supasses anything that some one can imagine.
And lastly the model its self is not a suggestion but just a tool to test and the meaning of this forum section is to make ideas for the game and not the tools to simulate the game. I don't mide if some one testes an idea in it then posts a topic about it. Thats what its for.
I will shut up now.
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 02:03:39 AM
Quote from: Lucifer on January 18, 2010, 01:58:45 AM
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 01:55:47 AM
QuoteThey're ideas and I'm just presenting them in a different form, so why can't it belong in the Ideas & Suggestions section?
QuoteI know you want to simulate your ideas in game but i don't think this is an accurate model.
It's accurate enough. Besides, Stick Online 3 isn't going to look exactly like #2, so why does he even have to fit a model at all? Just think of it as a visual example, instead of someone writing down a suggestion.
I fail to see how this is accurate enough to supasses anything that some one can imagine.
And lastly the model its self is not a suggestion but just a tool to test and the meaning of this forum section is to make ideas for the game and not the tools to simulate the game. I don't mide if some one testes an idea in it then posts a topic about it. Thats what its for.
I will
its both makeing ideas and testings the ideas
Its perfect to be in the idea section or in the general
but thats a mod or any staff choice
If you all fell that away about this then its like posting a topic about Ideas & Suggestions in the forum section of Ideas & Suggestions. I really feel this should be more of a Media thing. This topic keeps popling up and bumping ideas down. which is why I'm even posting.
Quoteits both makeing ideas and testings the ideas
for the sim, not the game. after testing should be posted here with more detail.
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 02:09:35 AM
If you all fell that away about this then its like posting a topic about Ideas & Suggestions in the forum section of Ideas & Suggestions. I really feel this should be more of a Media thing. This topic keeps popling up and bumping ideas down.
Hmm... Perhaps it should. I'd hate to be a menace. Can someone move this thread to media?
No its fine, you can keep it here. I was just unhappy and kind of was being a troll. I think you should add duck jump some time. I do like how the carma works in your sim and you doing a great job. +rep to you HeroicHero
Quote from: ARTgames on January 18, 2010, 02:19:31 AM
No its fine, you can keep it here. I was just unhappy and kind of was being a troll. I think you should add duck jump some time. I do like how the carma works in your sim and you doing a great job.
Agree I can't believe your the first one to make the one to Make That
Whoa. That was a sudden turn of events. Thanks anyways. o_o
Your way to nice and understanding. :D Ill be looking forward to your next version.
There was a video of SOv3 on Youtube , how the sprites will look , if they really will look like this , then simulator will just remind us of the good old days in v2. Keep up the good work , maybe one or two more monsters won't hurt if you have some free time.
Quote from: Bloodseeker on January 18, 2010, 02:52:17 AM
There was a video of SOv3 on Youtube , how the sprites will look , if they really will look like this , then simulator will just remind us of the good old days in v2. Keep up the good work , maybe one or two more monsters won't hurt if you have some free time.
Whoa whoa whoa. What? Demo of SO3? No way.
The only released sneakpeak of SO3 to us was a concept art, and a background tile sheet to the best of my knowledge.
If you are refering to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnyX0ZpZcTE
Then no, that was a Stick man made by Teej and everyone assumed it would be the new stick so they started making a bunch of hats for it.
Updated it. The pet has a very simple AI. When you attack, it will attck. If you provided me a sprite sheet, I will add it in.
Quote from: HeroicHero on January 18, 2010, 05:36:49 PM
Updated it. The pet has a very simple AI. When you attack, it will attck. If you provided me a sprite sheet, I will add it in.
Great work with the Quest Headquarters, but after you are finished with the quest and you go outside, your gold goes back to 0.
Yeah I was gonna say the same thing.
Love the shotgun thought lol.
Fixed. And also fixed the quest glitch. I'm gonna enjoy my day off for MLK day. :D
wow thats a nice Quest HQ there Awesome Thanks for uploading my
Idea Rep+
Haha, awesome so far. Love how smooth it is. Will the pets do anything? Also, never noticed that there were multiple weapons, awesome.
Why dont you add another monster? I ripped some more monsters for you. (and then got a Great Sword xD)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff209/super_bucket_bucket/SandFiendStand.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff209/super_bucket_bucket/SandFiendWalk.gif)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff209/super_bucket_bucket/BanditStand.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff209/super_bucket_bucket/BanditWalk.gif)
Disclaimer: All sprites are the property of Meiun and Stick Online. I do not claim these as my own or use them for personal use.
Yep this simulator died! :D
How was that even necessary? Seems like he keeps doing updates ever once in a while. It's only been about a week since his last update. And either way, why does it matter?
Quote from: Lingus on January 26, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
How was that even necessary? Seems like he keeps doing updates ever once in a while. It's only been about a week since his last update. And either way, why does it matter?
That Lingus, would be an example of what we call a Troll :)