(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1742/swbanner.png)
Hello guys :]
I'm going to make a game called "Stick World". It's not ONLINE.
But with Items like hat and weapons.
Would nice when some of u reg. in my forum. www.stick-world.soglam.net (http://www.stick-world.soglam.net)
and help me with sprites/ideas etc. :)
Of course all help will be credited. ;)
All the play-time u can paste ur exp. with ur nick on a extra screen for forums :P
A beautiful game with bosses, unique items, Casino and more!
Here a list of all things that r alrdy added:
- marin beetle
- ground
- monkey
- Stone Monkey (Boss)
- EXP. system
~ Coce !
Looks interesting. I can't wait to try it out. ;)
i would like to do some ideas and sprites or atleast try, but you cant post topics when i try it says only admins can post here, on every forum and also your gonna need a template of the stick for people to draw ;)
oh yes. sry for this :D
fixed and added the stickman :)
Before you get too far on this. The image of the stick person you added is nearly identical to the Stick Online one. If you're going for an "offline" version of Stick Online you might want to think about it a bit more. First, permission might be required from Meiun. Secondly, you might want to distance yourself from SO anyways just to be a bit more unique. If you come up with a story line (considering it's a single player game people are going to want more to do than kill monsters and get items) maybe change the name to something relating to that story. In addition, alter the main character to look significantly different from the SO stick character. Maybe even make it a non-stick person.
As of now, the stickman is essentially plagiarism...just make an entirely new sprite, never take somebody's and alter it to sell as your own.
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on January 08, 2010, 02:29:56 PM
As of now, the stickman is essentially plagiarism...just make an entirely new sprite, never take somebody's and alter it to sell as your own.
Christ. It's a stick. You can't copyright a !@#$ing stick, that's the entire damn point of a stick figure, they all look THE SAME. Not that it would be hard to make a few minor edits to it, but honestly, I don't see whats the big deal.
No. I disagree. You can make a stick figure in plenty of different ways. For someone to, at random, design a stick figure and come up with something so similar to the SO stick figure is pretty clear that they used the same image. At least as a starting point, or as a basis.
Quote from: Lingus on January 08, 2010, 02:37:56 PM
No. I disagree. You can make a stick figure in plenty of different ways. For someone to, at random, design a stick figure and come up with something so similar to the SO stick figure is pretty clear that they used the same image. At least as a starting point, or as a basis.
But in the end does it Really matter? I could understand people getting pissy with copying Stick Online's monsters, weapons, or hats. But a stick figure? What the hell is wrong with using something you like as a basis for what you're doing?
It's a STICK...
5 Lines and a Circle...
I guess. It's mainly just that anyone who has played SO will immediately think of SO when they see that stick figure. Whereas if they used a more distinct design (as well as changed the name) people would think of this game as a more unique game rather than an "offline" version of SO.
nop. its 0% like SO in a "offline" mode.
And yes it has a story, too!
Its something like Zelda(not really) where you just go in one direction.
The monsters doesn't spawn again or something.
And the stickman is from me!(k the legs..)
Its an Adventure-Game! Maybe its a bit like SO, but other games
are like SO, too. for example: RavagedLand, Kiox, nfo, Stick adventures online...........
Wait here how I will make it:
(you)......(monsters)..(monsters).....(quest)....(monsters).......(boss)....(new city)............................................
QuoteMaybe even make it a non-stick person.
sry, I choose a stick, because its the easiest one to animate..
I already animate the running and 1 weapon. Was a hard work for a noob-pixler :-\
~ Coce
So now we have Stick Online, Stick World Online and Stick World, what's next? :P
The stick character in the game is just a copy of the SO character with a different head.
However, I like the idea. Good luck. :)
i have to agree with lucifer, i mean jesus its a stick figure. big deal even if it looks the same, i can draw a EXACT replica of the stick online character
Quote from: thekolla on January 08, 2010, 06:08:52 PM
i can draw a EXACT replica of the stick online character
The question is not whether you can replicate it. It is how likely it is for someone who has never seen the SO stick figure to draw a stick figure almost exactly like it on the first try, just by chance. It's not likely at all...
To be honest, I don't really care. Games like this, that are so similar to Stick Online, they come and they go. So in the end it's not really a big deal. I just thought I'd present some advice. If you want your game to have a bit more of a chance of success, make it unique. If you don't care about that, then you probably don't care if your game succeeds either.
Quote from: Lingus on January 08, 2010, 06:26:40 PM
Quote from: thekolla on January 08, 2010, 06:08:52 PM
i can draw a EXACT replica of the stick online character
The question is not whether you can replicate it. It is how likely it is for someone who has never seen the SO stick figure to draw a stick figure almost exactly like it on the first try, just by chance. It's not likely at all...
To be honest, I don't really care. Games like this, that are so similar to Stick Online, they come and they go. So in the end it's not really a big deal. I just thought I'd present some advice. If you want your game to have a bit more of a chance of success, make it unique. If you don't care about that, then you probably don't care if your game succeeds either.
...Whats wrong with having the stick look like the one from Stick Online? Considering its been said before, there are not too many ways to make it unique. And even so, that doesn't determine the success of the game.
Saying he doesn't care about his game because he is using a generic stick figure (which all stick figures almost are), that is very similar to the Stick Online one is ridiculous.... Though I agree these games come and go, much too often. But you do/make what you know.
I myself don't really think the stick is a big deal.. i Personally think you should think of a more creative name for it though, otherwise it'll just get lost in the pile of other stick games imo.
so, I asked Meiun now. It's ok with him, if the game would look like a Fan-Game and
when I use some ideas of SO.
Quoteyou should think of a more creative name for it
hmm thats true... any ideas? :D
-some changes-
Wizard Hat - made by Looperpuck
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2822/stickmanp.png)
Beanie Bag Hat - made by thekolla
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3871/beaniebag.png)
Marine Beetle Hat
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5262/mbh.png)
1st screen:
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2355/1stscreen.png)
atm there r too many bugs for a demo-version.
~Coce
Me like those images :)
I had an idea...
On some places ingame are Lottos.
There are 3types of Lottos:
-Bronze (Beginner stuff)
-Silver (Medium stuff)
-Gold (Rare stuff)
You have to click on them to open it.
Maybe after a boss u receive as gift
1 Gold 2 Silver and 3 Bronze Lotos..
Just an Idea I get, when I was bored in school :D
Regardless of what people say, I still can't look at those and think they aren't suggestions for SO hats and/or monsters...
Quote from: Lingus on January 10, 2010, 07:19:20 PM
Regardless of what people say, I still can't look at those and think they aren't suggestions for SO hats and/or monsters...
...and? That's a bad thing? Haha.
Either way, its looks okay... I don't think you are going for super fancy, so the art is fine in that respect. But what other concepts do you have that would make this more fun for single player?
Quote from: Lingus on January 10, 2010, 07:19:20 PM
Regardless of what people say, I still can't look at those and think they aren't suggestions for SO hats and/or monsters...
And regardless what people say, this is another attempt to copy SO...have had plenty in the past. "Oh...we'll mod the stick figure, make our own hats and weapons, etc." Thing is, your game is the exact same concept SO is. You didn't even change the equipment system. The whole hat/weapons system Meiun invented for SO, no other game I've seen has only used HATS and WEAPONS. Most games have armor/etc. Maybe try to make some aspects unique so it's not the exact same game with worse graphics?
Quote from: Mr Pwnage on January 10, 2010, 10:15:36 PM
Quote from: Lingus on January 10, 2010, 07:19:20 PM
Regardless of what people say, I still can't look at those and think they aren't suggestions for SO hats and/or monsters...
And regardless what people say, this is another attempt to copy SO...have had plenty in the past. "Oh...we'll mod the stick figure, make our own hats and weapons, etc." Thing is, your game is the exact same concept SO is. You didn't even change the equipment system. The whole hat/weapons system Meiun invented for SO, no other game I've seen has only used HATS and WEAPONS. Most games have armor/etc. Maybe try to make some aspects unique so it's not the exact same game with worse graphics?
Its unfair to call the game bad because it 'copied' the hats/weapons system. Like you said, almost every other game out there utilizes the same armors and what not, but you don't see people crying about that when another one of those games pop up. I think it is very fair to utilize the hats/weapons only equipment on stick figures, it works the best.
Now when it comes to game play mechanics, that is an entirely different story... something that this game hasn't tried to change from.
Meiun has a rule in the Video Games section about promoting your own games. Might want to check that out.
Quote from: Lucifer on January 08, 2010, 02:39:31 PM
Quote from: Lingus on January 08, 2010, 02:37:56 PM
No. I disagree. You can make a stick figure in plenty of different ways. For someone to, at random, design a stick figure and come up with something so similar to the SO stick figure is pretty clear that they used the same image. At least as a starting point, or as a basis.
But in the end does it Really matter? I could understand people getting pissy with copying Stick Online's monsters, weapons, or hats. But a stick figure? What the hell is wrong with using something you like as a basis for what you're doing?
It's a STICK...
5 Lines and a Circle...
LMFAO...God damnit I love your posts, haha...
And as for the game...Haha, why do any of you bother with this anymore!!! I don't think I've ever seen one of this *Replicas* of StickOnline ever completed. And of course there are going to be the people against you xD That's always the hardest thing to deal with...Well, good luck!!! But I think it's safe to say this game is already over ;)
Quote from: Torch on January 10, 2010, 11:40:26 PM
Meiun has a rule in the Video Games section about promoting your own games. Might want to check that out.
This topic is in the off topic section. Those rules only apply to the Video Game section, as they so put it.
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on January 11, 2010, 02:40:35 AM
Quote from: Torch on January 10, 2010, 11:40:26 PM
Meiun has a rule in the Video Games section about promoting your own games. Might want to check that out.
This topic is in the off topic section. Those rules only apply to the Video Game section, as they so put it.
That's probably not true. You shouldn't be able to get around the rule by posting the topic in another section. If Meiun doesn't want people promoting their video games on his forum, he would probably post it in the video games section, but it makes sense that it applies to the whole forum.
A moderator will no-doubt catch this topic if it becomes popular enough (therefor problematic enough) and make a decision on whether or not it will stay or go.
This is so awesome , my computer is a little !@#$ed up at the moment and I haven't donated so I was looking something like stick online that doesn't require a lot of system requirements and it's similar to SO. Now I found it , keep up the good work and finally someone got this going. It would be awesome if someday there will be a port to the PSP.
Quote from: Bloodseeker on January 11, 2010, 05:17:38 PM
This is so awesome , my computer is a little !@#$ed up at the moment and I haven't donated so I was looking something like stick online that doesn't require a lot of system requirements and it's similar to SO. Now I found it , keep up the good work and finally someone got this going. It would be awesome if someday there will be a port to the PSP.
I'd be more than happy to, if you're willing to pay the $4256 fee to allow me to develop games for the PSP legally.
Well you don't need a permission to make homebrews (applications) , a lot of people make them , if you go to QuickJump you will find tons of them. I am not saying a real game by a real company , just a little homebrew.
-Added Cyro Set-
Cyro Blade:(~1% drop rate)
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9420/cyro.gif)
Cyro Helmet:(~2% drop rate)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2299/cyrohelm.gif)
both dropped by Stone Monkey
and
Crusader Helm:(dropped by Silver Lotto. ~15%)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4253/stickmana.png)
- Coce
mhh,. someone send me this and said it has no copyright
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7034/iceswordstrip7.png)
and this
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6035/blackstrip2.png)
So I wanted to ask if its really legal to use them both.
Well there re colored and That's just a Gs Remoded. That's really stupid.
Quote from: xCoCex on January 14, 2010, 08:10:38 AM
mhh,. someone send me this and said it has no copyright
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7034/iceswordstrip7.png)
and this
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6035/blackstrip2.png)
So I wanted to ask if its really legal to use them both.
Who sent you those? It may just be me, but those looks like they're compiled or whatever it's called. :-\
Sido sent me.
And big updated (:
- Inventory added
- 50% Hp system
- Exp system
- Shark Hat (from Kiox Online)
- Added Gold Lotto
Quote from: xCoCex on January 14, 2010, 08:10:38 AM
mhh,. someone send me this and said it has no copyright
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7034/iceswordstrip7.png)
and this
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6035/blackstrip2.png)
So I wanted to ask if its really legal to use them both.
I wouldn't use it... but I also wouldn't use the stick you're using. These are sprites that were made by someone in the community (not sure who) for Stick Online. It's the Great Sword recolored, and the GM helm recolored.
That GM helm looks beast.
So much for not copying SO.
Quote from: Lingus on January 14, 2010, 11:25:44 AM
Quote from: xCoCex on January 14, 2010, 08:10:38 AM
mhh,. someone send me this and said it has no copyright
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7034/iceswordstrip7.png)
and this
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6035/blackstrip2.png)
So I wanted to ask if its really legal to use them both.
I wouldn't use it... but I also wouldn't use the stick you're using. These are sprites that were made by someone in the community (not sure who) for Stick Online. It's the Great Sword recolored, and the GM helm recolored.
The stick???! No I made the stick.
And I won't use the both sprites.
Quote from: xCoCex on January 14, 2010, 12:29:09 PMThe stick???! No I made the stick.
And I've explained how you have clearly used the SO sprite as its basis. You may well have physically created the stick sprite you are using, but it is so extremely similar to the SO sprite that there is no possible way you would have come up with it if you had not already seen the SO sprite.
Ugh. Whatever. You can delude yourself as much as you like...
*Edit, my bad.*
I don't even know why you even bothered to ask about implementing those sprites... are you even trying to be original? The stick is one thing, but fah @ you for even suggesting recolors of stick online weapons/hats.
He stated already that he wasn't going to put in those sprites up there. Plus have you seen the other stick? it's got more of a round head and smaller body. It's on his forums
Quote from: Lingus on January 16, 2010, 02:06:16 AM
Quote from: xCoCex on January 14, 2010, 12:29:09 PMThe stick???! No I made the stick.
And I've explained how you have clearly used the SO sprite as its basis. You may well have physically created the stick sprite you are using, but it is so extremely similar to the SO sprite that there is no possible way you would have come up with it if you had not already seen the SO sprite.
Ugh. Whatever. You can delude yourself as much as you like...
And you still have yet to explain why that is bad. Its a freaking stick figure, they almost all look the same. You can change the thickness, stance, whatever else, but it still almost always ends up being the same. If, however, the SO version of the stick is the best bet for animating or looks, then why not use it?
Oh my god , why everybody look at the stick , sticks look the same , twins .....
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on January 16, 2010, 04:11:34 AM
Quote from: Lingus on January 16, 2010, 02:06:16 AM
Quote from: xCoCex on January 14, 2010, 12:29:09 PMThe stick???! No I made the stick.
And I've explained how you have clearly used the SO sprite as its basis. You may well have physically created the stick sprite you are using, but it is so extremely similar to the SO sprite that there is no possible way you would have come up with it if you had not already seen the SO sprite.
Ugh. Whatever. You can delude yourself as much as you like...
And you still have yet to explain why that is bad. Its a freaking stick figure, they almost all look the same. You can change the thickness, stance, whatever else, but it still almost always ends up being the same. If, however, the SO version of the stick is the best bet for animating or looks, then why not use it?
Bullshit.
Quote from: Bloodseeker on January 16, 2010, 12:09:45 PM
Oh my god , why everybody look at the stick , sticks look the same , twins .....
Bullshit.
I've been fairly silent to this point, as I don't really give a shit either way, but bullshit. There are any number of ways to make a stick man that won't look the same. And it's not just the style of the stick man, it's also the stance itself.
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/254/stickmen.png)
Boom! 3 stick men standing sprites that DON'T look like Stick Online's. And I made that in 5 bloody minutes.
As I said before, I don't particularly care whether they rip-off SO or not, but hardly see why some people decide to delude themselves into thinking that they aren't. Just keep my intellectual property, and RECOLOURS or otherwise slight MODIFICATIONS to my intellectual property OUT. Do your own !@#$ing work.
Chaos your making me hungry for popcorn. and that is a meda4.
Incidentally, I decided to do a comparison:
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6360/stickmancomparison.png)
Red marks the area of the body that is different.
[sarcasm]Oh, yeah, they are TOTALLY not the same.[/sarcasm] They took the !@#$ing SO sprite and changed the head to a shittier looking version and removed the end of the arms. Bravo.
I dont see any red marks. or is that the point?
nvm i do now. it was small. you should zoom in.
Enlarged for you.
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6360/stickmancomparison.png)
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 12:52:23 PM
Incidentally, I decided to do a comparison:
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6360/stickmancomparison.png)
Red marks the area of the body that is different.
[sarcasm]Oh, yeah, they are TOTALLY not the same.[/sarcasm] They took the !@#$ing SO sprite and changed the head to a shittier looking version and removed the end of the arms. Bravo.
Oh no, they took a !@#$ing stick figure..what were they thinking..they are obviously out to take SO's players away from them!
Seriously, like you said its just a stick figure that took 5 mins to make, so who gives a shit if they slightly modify it and use it? Stop being such a bitch, damn. I can understand why the GS and Mod Helm recolorings shouldn't be used, but the stick...come on, ITS JUST A STICK FIGURE!
OH, IT'S JUST A SWORD. OH, IT'S JUST A HELMET.
OH, IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY PATHETIC LACK OF EFFORT.
Your argument fails, get the !@#$ out.
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/254/stickmen.png)
Boom! 3 stick men standing sprites that DON'T look like Stick Online's. And I made that in 5 bloody minutes.
That 3rd stick figure looks awesome chaos.
I say they just change the stick figures look completly. I mean it can't be that hard to make a new one not mimiking SO. Seeing chaos made it in "5 bloody minutes." means that you guys can too.
Quote from: crozier on January 16, 2010, 01:58:37 PM
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/254/stickmen.png)
Boom! 3 stick men standing sprites that DON'T look like Stick Online's. And I made that in 5 bloody minutes.
That 3rd stick figure looks awesome chaos.
I say they just change the stick figures look completly. I mean it can't be that hard to make a new one not mimiking SO. Seeing chaos made it in "5 bloody minutes." means that you guys can too.
I readily admit that I put the most effort into the last one.
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 02:00:44 PM
Quote from: crozier on January 16, 2010, 01:58:37 PM
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/254/stickmen.png)
Boom! 3 stick men standing sprites that DON'T look like Stick Online's. And I made that in 5 bloody minutes.
That 3rd stick figure looks awesome chaos.
I say they just change the stick figures look completly. I mean it can't be that hard to make a new one not mimiking SO. Seeing chaos made it in "5 bloody minutes." means that you guys can too.
I readily admit that I put the most effort into the last one.
Yes...
I can see the really small shading job on it.
Also that the first one can be made in about 20 seconds.
The 3rd one is the only one that is small enough to fit in a game.
Also if you guys use that modhat and gs colored. That would be just sad...
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 01:56:54 PM
OH, IT'S JUST A SWORD. OH, IT'S JUST A HELMET.
OH, IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY PATHETIC LACK OF EFFORT.
Your argument fails, get the !@#$ out.
It is still just a stick figure, I don't care what you say. Your 3 stick figures don't even look that much different, they are just different sizes and the 3rd one has a small amount of shading. So by your standards, what I did to this stick makes it okay because look its taller, has longer arms, and has a piece of gray shit on it.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8359/18645765.png) (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/18645765.png/)
Just stop bitching about it, in the long run, this game is going to fail anyway, so who gives a shit.
If people put work into something, example: making a mmorpg like SO, and people steal the main character sprite then you should expect somebody to get angry and make a big deal out of it.
(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/527/whitee.png) (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/whitee.png/)
I personally see a big difference between chaos's and the one being used.
Chaos's head is 1 pixle smaller. The stance is completely different. It has hands and feet. Its not shaded like crap. *looks closely at petro's stick figure*
Small things like that would make a large difference.
Next time you post a sprite I should change a few pixles and call it my own. How bout I colorize your avatar?
Quote from: Petro on January 16, 2010, 02:15:29 PM
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 01:56:54 PM
OH, IT'S JUST A SWORD. OH, IT'S JUST A HELMET.
OH, IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY PATHETIC LACK OF EFFORT.
Your argument fails, get the !@#$ out.
It is still just a stick figure, I don't care what you say. Your 3 stick figures don't even look that much different, they are just different sizes and the 3rd one has a small amount of shading. So by your standards, what I did to this stick makes it okay because look its taller, has longer arms, and has a piece of gray shit on it.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8359/18645765.png) (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/18645765.png/)
Just stop bitching about it, in the long run, this game is going to fail anyway, so who gives a shit.
And what, pray tell, does being a stick figure have to do with it? What drops a stick figure to a lower level of status over any other sprite? "It's just a stick figure, it's okay to steal it!" How does that even begin to calculate in your brain? Regardless of the effort required to make something, it doesn't make it okay to STEAL SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK.
Yes, my stick figures actually look QUITE different. I don't think I'd have to worry about anyone confusing mine and and Stick Online's, now would I? If the only difference you can see beyond the shading on the third one is "OMFG THEY ARE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS", then you'd have to be !@#$ing BLIND. Different width, different height, different STANCE, feet, hands, shading. Use your god damn eyes.
And yes, I would call yours different, too. Not that hard to make something that wasn't a complete rip-off, was it? So I have to question, what the !@#$ is wrong with the people who made this game?
If this game fails it won't be based on the look of the stick figure, it will be based on the gameplay tbh. Let's just see how far this game gets.
Quote from: stick d00d on January 16, 2010, 02:40:44 PM
If this game fails it won't be based on the look of the stick figure, it will be based on the gameplay tbh. Let's just see how far this game gets.
I agree. A stupid sprite won't make a game fail. However, if the level of effort shown by said sprite is any indication of the level of effort this whole game will receive, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Incidentally, I'd just like to reiterate, I don't give a shit about them using SO's stick man. Whatever. I'm just supporting Lingus's EXTREMELY VALID criticism on the stick man.
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 02:39:06 PM
Quote from: Petro on January 16, 2010, 02:15:29 PM
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 01:56:54 PM
OH, IT'S JUST A SWORD. OH, IT'S JUST A HELMET.
OH, IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY PATHETIC LACK OF EFFORT.
Your argument fails, get the !@#$ out.
It is still just a stick figure, I don't care what you say. Your 3 stick figures don't even look that much different, they are just different sizes and the 3rd one has a small amount of shading. So by your standards, what I did to this stick makes it okay because look its taller, has longer arms, and has a piece of gray shit on it.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8359/18645765.png) (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/18645765.png/)
Just stop bitching about it, in the long run, this game is going to fail anyway, so who gives a shit.
And what, pray tell, does being a stick figure have to do with it? What drops a stick figure to a lower level of status over any other sprite? "It's just a stick figure, it's okay to steal it!" How does that even begin to calculate in your brain? Regardless of the effort required to make something, it doesn't make it okay to STEAL SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK.
Yes, my stick figures actually look QUITE different. I don't think I'd have to worry about anyone confusing mine and and Stick Online's, now would I? If the only difference you can see beyond the shading on the third one is "OMFG THEY ARE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS", then you'd have to be !@#$ing BLIND. Different width, different height, different STANCE, feet, hands, shading. Use your god damn eyes.
And yes, I would call yours different, too. Not that hard to make something that wasn't a complete rip-off, was it? So I have to question, what the !@#$ is wrong with the people who made this game?
But in the end, after you change the boldness, feet, and head, it is still 5 lines and a circle. So I believe that changing the boldness of the head and putting 2 red dots on the hands (by the way..wtf are those red dots anyway?) are enough to make is different. I agree that he should of made it more different, but I don't see it as a big enough deal to bitch and argue about (which yes I realize I am arguing about it). I just don't see how what I did to it makes it okay, but what he did isn't, but whatever I don't care enough to continue arguing.
and @Crozier
Obviously my shading on it is crap, I just took a color of gray and scribbled on it. And if you want to recolor my avatar, have fun, why would I care? And for the "next time I post a sprite", if you ever saw how I sprited, you would know that would never happen.
Quote from: Chaos on January 16, 2010, 02:43:39 PMIncidentally, I'd just like to reiterate, I don't give a shit about them using SO's stick man. Whatever. I'm just supporting Lingus's EXTREMELY VALID criticism on the stick man.
This.
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Thank you Chaos for proving my point. I will point out that I didn't care enough to go to the lengths that Chaos did to prove this. What he is saying though, is exactly what I was trying to say. I could give two craps if they used the exact sprite, to the pixel, that SO uses. You're right. It's not that big of a deal. What it means is that the person who made this game doesn't care about the game they are making to create an original looking main character.
And just so you realize, there are an infinite number of ways to arrange 5 lines and a circle. Infinite. Some arrangements won't even look like a stick figure. But the ones that do will likely have wide, vastly differing looks. Chaos proved that even 3 different stick figures could look quite different from each other. There are certainly many different ways one could design a stick figure than the examples provided here.
Why are we having this discussion? Not that we care that someone "stole" the SO stick figure, that's part of it... mainly because it's ridiculous when someone comes to the SO forum talking about their game that they are making trying to get people all excited about it when they've put next to no effort into certain aspects of the game. And what? We're supposed to be all happy about this game now? Please, keep trying to make games. I'm not trying to discourage you. Just do it with some more originality, creativity. You won't get far without that. And if you can't see by now that what you have done is so similar to SO then you won't make it...
You all seem to have misunderstood me, Chaos and Lingus.
I didn't say that the stick figure was original work; I was saying why does it matter? "If, however, the SO version of the stick is the best bet for animating or looks, then why not use it?"
Of course, you answered that now as well, and I agree. More effort should be put in, but I don't think its enough to consider the game to be horrid off the bat.
I think the argument that "oh he only changed a few pixels, it's just a stick figure" is a poor statement in itself. Being an artist, if you take someones work and "change a few things" it's still taking their work either way. So I don't see how it's THAT DIFFICULT to make an original sprite of a stickman out of your own head.
I consider it lazy. Sure, the game can still go far with using it and whatever, but either way you look at it, it's still unoriginal.
Chaos made 3 stick figures in 5 minutes, so by that basis, I'm sure anyone could make ONE single good stick figure in 5 minutes.
@Petro: Stop being a dillhole. The different between Chaos' stick sprite and yours is his doesn't look like shit. kthanxbai.
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on January 16, 2010, 05:01:25 PM
but I don't think its enough to consider the game to be horrid off the bat.
True. But it's certainly not promising. And it doesn't make me want to really even try the game.
Quote from: DarkTrinity on January 16, 2010, 05:08:42 PM
@Petro: Stop being a dillhole. The different between Chaos' stick sprite and yours is his doesn't look like shit. kthanxbai.
I already said I was done with this argument, I don't need you to try to defend Chaos and bring it back up.
Also, I don't recall saying mine looked better (actually I believe I said it indeed looks like crap), or even comparing it to his in the first place.
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on January 16, 2010, 05:01:25 PM
I didn't say that the stick figure was original work; I was saying why does it matter? "If, however, the SO version of the stick is the best bet for animating or looks, then why not use it?"
Because bullshit (it isn't the best bet for animating OR looks. The SO stick man is actually kinda crappy atm.), and because it's someone else's work.
How can you even plagiarize a stickman sprite and put it in a game and feel proud about it? It isn't hard to make a stick figure, folks. Even if you halfass it and whip out trusty old MSpaint and the line tool, anybody can make one.
...Unless there's something terribly, TERRIBLY wrong with you.
lmao.
I'll close this topic (if possible).
What u guys write here makes me bit sad.. :'(
I'll post a demo in some weeks.
Ty Chaos & Lingus.