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Title: Donating Blood
Post by: Titan on January 16, 2010, 10:46:21 PM
I wish to donate blood, and am 16, but the state I live in(vermont) currently requires me to be 17 to donate blood.
This may seem like a weird place to ask but my I couldn't find anything sooo....
Can I go to another state(New Hampshire) with different laws(age 16 with parents consent) and donate blood, or do I have to be a resident of the state?
Or will I have to wait until i'm 17?(or if they ever pass the 16 age limit for vermont legislation)

Might as well turn this into a discussion anyways.(Have you donated,blood type, etc)
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Lingus on January 16, 2010, 11:36:44 PM
It doesn't seem like it would depend on state of residence. To be sure though, you might try calling Red Cross. Here's the website: http://www.redcrossblood.org/

I've given blood once before in High School. Wasn't a great experience. Needles don't bother me, but after giving blood I was extremely dizzy.

So what inspired you to donate?
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: EpicPhailure on January 16, 2010, 11:46:01 PM
Just on the subject of blood, what type are you?
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Titan on January 17, 2010, 12:30:43 AM
Quote from: Lingus on January 16, 2010, 11:36:44 PM
It doesn't seem like it would depend on state of residence. To be sure though, you might try calling Red Cross. Here's the website: http://www.redcrossblood.org/

I've given blood once before in High School. Wasn't a great experience. Needles don't bother me, but after giving blood I was extremely dizzy.

So what inspired you to donate?

I went to the red cross site and it said you needed to be age 17 in Vermont.

I don't know what really inspired me to donate. We were talking about genetics and blood in science and donating, and it just seemed like a good thing to do.

And @ epic I don't really know, I think i'm b+ or b-
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Scotty on January 17, 2010, 03:31:40 AM
I fully support anyone and THANK them for doing so.  As far as your situation, I dunno.  Meiun lives in NH, so you might PM him and ask him what the legal age is for donating, and I'm sure he'd answer if he knew.

I've been donating since High School, and while I may not be in their standards for donating now (my lifestyles, and awful addictions and all), I know FIRST HAND what donating blood does.  I can say with pride that I actually saved the life of a fellow Marine who was involved in an attack north of Fallujah, Iraq in 2006, and I was asked (alongside with others) to donate blood since their was a shortage at the clinic.  I had a pint sucked straight out of me, and pumped into the other guy, after he lost so much in his injuries.  It saved his life, and he still claims he owes me one (even though a cold six pack would've sufficed).  It saves lives, and since I got to witness it first hand, I know what it means to donate.  I ask to anyone, who meets the red cross standards, to donate, and do it whenever possible.  You may not know who it is that depends on it, but for the love of God, they WANT to know who's blood pumps through their veins when they need it most, so they know who to thank.  Likelihood of them ever knowing, probably nil, but they know that someone generous enough saved their life, and they wouldn't be alive today without it!
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: DarkTrinity on January 17, 2010, 05:25:32 PM
I have a fear of needles being shoved in my arms... shots are okay cause they only last a few seconds... IVs and donating blood are in there for longer :X  But I give props to anyone who donates blood...
My last year in highschool I was considering donating, but supposedly youre not supposed to donate like 6 months or something after you've gotten a tattoo... at least thats what I was told. So I was out...
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Jake on January 17, 2010, 05:28:49 PM
I can't donate because I went to Haiti! That's what I was told.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: ARTgames on January 17, 2010, 05:30:05 PM
And why were you in Haiti?
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: stick d00d on January 17, 2010, 05:30:58 PM
Im guessing it had something to do with the earthquake?
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Jake on January 17, 2010, 05:31:01 PM
The same reason anyone goes there. Hot girls and food.

I went there before the earthquake. Recently found out though that the place I stayed in is completely demolished.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
I would rethink your choice to donate blood. Donating blood can cause blood disease and (obviously) blood deficiency.

If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Titan on January 17, 2010, 07:04:43 PM
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
I would rethink your choice to donate blood. Donating blood can cause blood disease and (obviously) blood deficiency.

If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.


Nope, completly wrong.
They use a sterile needle,and throw it away,they also test your blood for disease, and only take 1 pint.
The average adult has 10-12 pints of blood, and losing one should not affect them serously.
You can also only donate blood every 56 days.

Asking for money for your blood is selfish, and you would never get paid unless you have o-.
The blood you donate can save lives of people(up to 3 i've heard)
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Torch on January 17, 2010, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Titan on January 17, 2010, 07:04:43 PM
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
I would rethink your choice to donate blood. Donating blood can cause blood disease and (obviously) blood deficiency.

If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.


Nope, completly wrong.
They use a sterile needle,and throw it away,they also test your blood for disease, and only take 1 pint.
The average adult has 10-12 pints of blood, and losing one should not affect them serously.
You can also only donate blood every 56 days.

Asking for money for your blood is selfish, and you would never get paid unless you have o-.
The blood you donate can save lives of people(up to 3 i've heard)
While sterile needle's greatly reduce the risk of blood disease, mistakes can be made and there is still a risk. Blood donation can also cause dizziness, feeling ill, and fainting.

The monetary value of blood is low right now, simply because people are willing to give blood for free. There's nothing selfish about selling something that you own. I don't see how selling blood is any more selfish than a pharmacy selling medicine.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Titan on January 17, 2010, 07:50:26 PM
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Titan on January 17, 2010, 07:04:43 PM
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
I would rethink your choice to donate blood. Donating blood can cause blood disease and (obviously) blood deficiency.

If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.


Nope, completly wrong.
They use a sterile needle,and throw it away,they also test your blood for disease, and only take 1 pint.
The average adult has 10-12 pints of blood, and losing one should not affect them serously.
You can also only donate blood every 56 days.

Asking for money for your blood is selfish, and you would never get paid unless you have o-.
The blood you donate can save lives of people(up to 3 i've heard)
While sterile needle's greatly reduce the risk of blood disease, mistakes can be made and there is still a risk. Blood donation can also cause dizziness, feeling ill, and fainting.
The monetary value of blood is low right now, simply because people are willing to give blood for free. There's nothing selfish about selling something that you own. I don't see how selling blood is any more selfish than a pharmacy selling medicine.

And thats why they keep you around for 15 minutes or so afterwords.
And it is selfish, pharmacy's don'thave the option to just away medicine, the medical companys have to pay to make medicine.
Your body automaticly makes blood. 

And also theres no risk of getting blood diease, they don't make mistakes.
Find me a few stories about people donating blood(not getting blood) that have gotten blood disease.

Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Jake on January 17, 2010, 08:26:37 PM
There is a risk of getting a disease transferred by blood, but the chances of that happening are so low that it's really not something you should worry about at all. The chances are much greater that you'd die in a car crash on the way to donate blood.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Scotty on January 17, 2010, 11:57:29 PM
Anyone who says they don't want to donate because of the fear of a (record-proving) lifesaving organization (aka Red Cross) is a moron.  Sure, there may be a mistake made, but do you REALLY think the red cross wants that on their record?  Do you REALLY think that some lazy bastard is going to cost himself and his company their reputation.  That excuse is a cop-out.

Like Jake said, you clearly have no concept of how donating blood has saved lives.  If someone I know needs it, or even a complete random stranger who is thankful to me (without even knowing me) for saving his life through a blood transfusion, I will give it.  The thought that you could get a disease through a sterile needle is ridiculous and stupid.

The Red Cross strives to be the driving force behind saving lives.  I'll take their word over some immature rumor some people spread to try and cause a disruption.  There's a reason that Geneva convention rules state that red cross is not to be harmed during periods of war.  They are there to save lives, not take them.

To anyone who has considered donating, and is impartial because of Torch's un-educated accusation, do a study and try to find irrefutable evidence that states that there is SOLID proof that donating blood has a good chance of you contracting a disease or any sort of ailment.


Regarding the other problems such as dizziness, dude, get over it.  Of course you are losing blood, and there are some MINOR draw-backs but they ensure that you are safe before they let you go.  They aren't draining you of your life.  It won't kill you, they do intensive screening prior to the donation, to ensure that you are in good health so that A) you aren't a liability to the potential receiver of the blood, and B) that you aren't going to be sick afterwards.  I've been turned away before because I had recently gotten over a cold, and my honesty ensured another's survival.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: DarkBlade325 on January 18, 2010, 02:00:55 AM
Quote from: Scotty on January 17, 2010, 11:57:29 PM
Anyone who says they don't want to donate because of the fear of a (record-proving) lifesaving organization (aka Red Cross) is a moron.  Sure, there may be a mistake made, but do you REALLY think the red cross wants that on their record?  Do you REALLY think that some lazy bastard is going to cost himself and his company their reputation.  That excuse is a cop-out.

Like Jake said, you clearly have no concept of how donating blood has saved lives.  If someone I know needs it, or even a complete random stranger who is thankful to me (without even knowing me) for saving his life through a blood transfusion, I will give it.  The thought that you could get a disease through a sterile needle is ridiculous and stupid.

The Red Cross strives to be the driving force behind saving lives.  I'll take their word over some immature rumor some people spread to try and cause a disruption.  There's a reason that Geneva convention rules state that red cross is not to be harmed during periods of war.  They are there to save lives, not take them.

To anyone who has considered donating, and is impartial because of Torch's un-educated accusation, do a study and try to find irrefutable evidence that states that there is SOLID proof that donating blood has a good chance of you contracting a disease or any sort of ailment.


Regarding the other problems such as dizziness, dude, get over it.  Of course you are losing blood, and there are some MINOR draw-backs but they ensure that you are safe before they let you go.  They aren't draining you of your life.  It won't kill you, they do intensive screening prior to the donation, to ensure that you are in good health so that A) you aren't a liability to the potential receiver of the blood, and B) that you aren't going to be sick afterwards.  I've been turned away before because I had recently gotten over a cold, and my honesty ensured another's survival.

Congratulations, Scotty. You just made the world record of nearly perfectly matching my opinion word-2-word were I to post earlier.

I don't need to say anymore, do I? But I will say this. Torch you said you wanted to be paid for donating? Okay here's your payment. You'll be saving someone's life, how's that for payment?
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: DarkTrinity on January 18, 2010, 11:06:28 AM
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
I would rethink your choice to donate blood. Donating blood can cause blood disease and (obviously) blood deficiency.

If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Go donate sperm if you want to be paid for donating bodily fluids.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@Scotty: The risk of contracting a disease is low, but that doesn't mean there isn't a risk. Nothing that I said in my previous post was incorrect, so I don't think it's fair to say that I'm uneducated. There are negative side effects to donating blood and they should at least be considered before doing so.

@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.

@DT: I wasn't trolling, I was voicing my stance on donating blood. I think that blood has value and it's worth selling as opposed to giving away for free.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Snakeman on January 18, 2010, 09:43:57 PM
Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@Scotty: The risk of contracting a disease is low, but that doesn't mean there isn't a risk. Nothing that I said in my previous post was incorrect, so I don't think it's fair to say that I'm uneducated. There are negative side effects to donating blood and they should at least be considered before doing so.

@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.

@DT: I wasn't trolling, I was voicing my stance on donating blood. I think that blood has value and it's worth selling as opposed to giving away for free.

I'll keep that in mind the next time somebody accidentally cuts me.

"HEY FAG, COME BACK HERE, YOU GOTTA PAY FOR THAT!"
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Scotty on January 18, 2010, 10:38:19 PM
Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@Scotty: The risk of contracting a disease is low, but that doesn't mean there isn't a risk. Nothing that I said in my previous post was incorrect, so I don't think it's fair to say that I'm uneducated. There are negative side effects to donating blood and they should at least be considered before doing so.

Yes, there is a chance, but with your lack of proper wording, you failed to note that I have a bigger chance of passing a kidney stone in my undies on the way home from work, resulting in me driving off a cliff in my brand new challenger killing myself.  Can you contract a disease while donating blood?  Yes, but you can also get struck by lightning, or mauled by a lion in downtown Los Angeles, or punch a sea lion and get mauled for it.  All those, I have a much larger chance of doing than contracting a disease during a blood donation.

To sit there and attempt to strike paranoia into people's hearts because of such an EXTREME low-risk, that's immature.

EDIT: Also, if you want your monetary value, I believe there are American states that will actually pay you for plasma.  So, unless Canada does it, they suck.  Move to America.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: DarkBlade325 on January 19, 2010, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.
...Wait what? You either contradicted yourself, or you mis-read what I ment.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Lingus on January 19, 2010, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on January 19, 2010, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.
...Wait what? You either contradicted yourself, or you mis-read what I ment.
Actually, it seems like you're misreading. He wants to be paid. You're saying the payment for giving blood is saving a life. In his eyes, potentially saving a life is the service that he wants to be paid for.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Scotty on January 19, 2010, 05:18:23 PM
Quote from: Lingus on January 19, 2010, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on January 19, 2010, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.
...Wait what? You either contradicted yourself, or you mis-read what I ment.
Actually, it seems like you're misreading. He wants to be paid. You're saying the payment for giving blood is saving a life. In his eyes, potentially saving a life is the service that he wants to be paid for.

/applaud
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Lingus on January 19, 2010, 06:04:35 PM
Haha thanks. Btw, I should point out I don't necessarily agree with Torch's view. I just understood what he was saying. It makes sense to a certain degree... it's just kind of selfish. It's fine for him to think that way. Donating should be done voluntarily, and if you truly don't feel generous, then you shouldn't do it. If you feel like you should be given compensation for your services, then don't do it unless they are offering compensation. That doesn't mean other people aren't going to continue to donate.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: TANK on January 19, 2010, 10:26:08 PM
you have to take into account that the person you donate blood to might be a mass murderer
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Torch on January 19, 2010, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: TANK on January 19, 2010, 10:26:08 PM
you have to take into account that the person you donate blood to might be a mass murderer
Logic at its finest.  :D
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: LeGuy on January 19, 2010, 10:52:06 PM
Hey, props to you, man. I always admire someone who'll go out of their way to help others. I have no experience with the matter whatsoever, so I doubt I'll be of any assistance, but I tip my hat to you in respect.

(Tip.)
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: DarkTrinity on January 19, 2010, 10:55:01 PM
@Torch: You can get paid for donating plasma. Go have at it.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: DarkBlade325 on January 20, 2010, 03:11:43 AM
I gotta admit, it does raise some questions of blood was actually worth something. I wonder how many emos would be living in mansions right now.

Psst, hey you, I have nothing against emos, don't go ape shit.

Hell I'd expect to see blood pack thefts all around hospitals.

@Lingus yeah I kinda picked up on that...But wait... It still doesn't make sense! He wants to be paid for saving lives? How in the deepest layer of Hell does that work? Do you have no pride? Look, yeah the Earth is revolving around money right now, but come on, if being a life saver isn't payment enough, I don't know what is. Tell you what, if you're not satisfied you get a free piece of pie for every donation.

Christ I can only imagine if everyone wanted to be paid for dona- no wait, SELLING their blood. If there ever happens to be a way to sell your blood, you should be able to sell your piss. I mean Hell, it makes about as much sense give or take the fact blood donations are keeping people alive.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Chaos on January 20, 2010, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on January 20, 2010, 03:11:43 AM
If there ever happens to be a way to sell your blood, you should be able to sell your piss. I mean Hell, it makes about as much sense give or take the fact blood donations are keeping people alive.

Incidentally, no, that does not make any sense, as piss has no use.
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Jake on January 20, 2010, 02:44:39 PM
I guess you've never seen man vs wild ;)
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: Chaos on January 20, 2010, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: Jake on January 20, 2010, 02:44:39 PM
I guess you've never seen man vs wild ;)

I don't have cable.  You know that.

I have seen all of ONE episode of Man vs Wild. 

And to be honest, even a situation where one might NEED piss is fairly rare, and it'd be fairly easy to obtain it. <_<
Title: Re: Donating Blood
Post by: yottabyte on January 20, 2010, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: Jake on January 20, 2010, 02:44:39 PM
I guess you've never seen man vs wild ;)
So true  :)