Piracy the end of media industry?

[Chaos]

I call bullshit.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18513_5-insane-file-sharing-panics-from-before-internet.html

[ARTgames]

Scotty I'm with you one this one.

[Chaos]

Scotty I'm with you one this one.

Might want to double check the original poster again, bro. ;)

[T-Rok]

Lol... Nice one Art. I never believed the whole killing the media anyways. If we were killing media actors wouldn't have lamborghinis >.>

[Scotty]

Damn skippy Art!  I love to take all credit!

[Meiun]

Not that I am supporting piracy, but In regards to music piracy at least, the only thing that would for sure be ruined are all the middle-men. There are plenty of means for the actual artists to survive nowadays even with tons of piracy.

[Seifer]

Most musicians make money off selling merch and touring these days. I remember on the radio last week they were speaking about how concert attendence is down now, and spoke of The Who, Nickleback and Justin Beiber and Christina agulera or britney Spears, or some shit. I forget really. But the point is, it's all jank. It's not music people love and respect, and get into, it's just crap people may dance to, or hear on the radio. The concerts people go to are by real bands, bands people love and respect and really get into. Ones that put on a real show for people who listen to the music through the ages, not bands that are a passing fad. I know my favorite band, Coheed and Cambria, tours all the time and constantly sells out.

I know the ONLY place for me to buy music is Walmart, here in my small town. And frankly, they stock crap. They don't have what I want. I am forced to pirate.

[Mr Pwnage]

I call bullshit.

Well called Scotty.

[Chaos]

I call bullshit.

Well called Scotty.

Har har.  Late to the punchline.

[LeGuy]

I can't really bring myself to pirate music - or anything, for that matter. From my point of view, it's not really all that different from just stealing a CD from a store. You're just a lot less likely to be caught when you're pirating. And it's not like the already rich artists need any more money, and as Seifer said, they get a ton of it from concerts and merchandise. It just seems like if someone's going to put their time and effort into something that I'll enjoy, they ought to get a little financial compensation for that. The same thing goes for software, games, etc.

And, of course, I'm not suggesting that piracy is the end of the media industry. It's more of an ethics thing for me rather than a fear of the explosive, flaming halt of the concept of entertainment itself.

[T-Rok]

I can't really bring myself to pirate music - or anything, for that matter. From my point of view, it's not really all that different from just stealing a CD from a store. You're just a lot less likely to be caught when you're pirating. And it's not like the already rich artists need any more money, and as Seifer said, they get a ton of it from concerts and merchandise. It just seems like if someone's going to put their time and effort into something that I'll enjoy, they ought to get a little financial compensation for that. The same thing goes for software, games, etc.

And, of course, I'm not suggesting that piracy is the end of the media industry. It's more of an ethics thing for me rather than a fear of the explosive, flaming halt of the concept of entertainment itself.

In Canada its not considered stealing. Unlike in the states. :P But if I do happen to enjoy something that has been pirated I always buy it. Especially music.

[Torch]

I make sure to pirate all of my offline computer games and movies. As for music, for the most part I just listen to songs on youtube. If I want to update my iPod, I'll either borrow a CD from a friend (for the sake of sound quality), or pirate it like video games.

File-sharing is non-enforced in Canada, so there's no real reason not to, after all, I'll make better use of the money I save than the developers would if I gave it to them.

I'd also like to point out that pirating provides incentive for producers to keep the prices on media entertainment low, so they won't turn people off buying the product.

[T-Rok]

I'd also like to point out that pirating provides incentive for producers to keep the prices on media entertainment low, so they won't turn people off buying the product.

No wonder PS3 games are so expensive. No hack for to allow the use of pirated games yet. xD

[Lingus]

I'd also like to point out that pirating provides incentive for producers to keep the prices on media entertainment low, so they won't turn people off buying the product.

You really would think that... but it's not true. Piracy actually gives them an excuse (a lame one) to hike prices up. The argument is that they need to make up the lost revenue. But, in a lot of cases, the high price is the reason why someone will pirate instead of purchasing.

From my point of view, it's not really all that different from just stealing a CD from a store.

I've never agreed with that. I know most people will probably not accept my analogy, but I always say it's like walking into a store, making a duplicate copy of the product, and walking out with the duplicate. With digital piracy, there is no loss of product to the company selling the product. Whereas stealing something from a retail story, they're actually losing that product. So in the end, if I were to digitally "steal" something, if I never intended to purchase the product in the first place, the company has lost absolutely nothing. They have no lost merchandise, and no lost potential sale.

Of course, that assumes that the pirate was never going to purchase the product, which in a lot of cases is not true. A lot of times people would have purchased it, but because it's easy enough to pirate it, why would they spend the money? My argument only works for people (such as myself) who do not have the disposable income to spend on things like music or video games. And again, the counter to that is, "Well, then just wait until you have the money." Which is valid...

[Jake]

You really would think that... but it's not true. Piracy actually gives them an excuse (a lame one) to hike prices up. The argument is that they need to make up the lost revenue. But, in a lot of cases, the high price is the reason why someone will pirate instead of purchasing.

I just read an article that stated piracy rates are higher the cheaper the item is. 90% of iphone apps are pirated, most of them 2 dollars or less. So yeah, I would definitely agree with your statement.