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Donating Blood

Started by Titan, January 16, 2010, 10:46:21 PM

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Scotty

Anyone who says they don't want to donate because of the fear of a (record-proving) lifesaving organization (aka Red Cross) is a moron.  Sure, there may be a mistake made, but do you REALLY think the red cross wants that on their record?  Do you REALLY think that some lazy bastard is going to cost himself and his company their reputation.  That excuse is a cop-out.

Like Jake said, you clearly have no concept of how donating blood has saved lives.  If someone I know needs it, or even a complete random stranger who is thankful to me (without even knowing me) for saving his life through a blood transfusion, I will give it.  The thought that you could get a disease through a sterile needle is ridiculous and stupid.

The Red Cross strives to be the driving force behind saving lives.  I'll take their word over some immature rumor some people spread to try and cause a disruption.  There's a reason that Geneva convention rules state that red cross is not to be harmed during periods of war.  They are there to save lives, not take them.

To anyone who has considered donating, and is impartial because of Torch's un-educated accusation, do a study and try to find irrefutable evidence that states that there is SOLID proof that donating blood has a good chance of you contracting a disease or any sort of ailment.


Regarding the other problems such as dizziness, dude, get over it.  Of course you are losing blood, and there are some MINOR draw-backs but they ensure that you are safe before they let you go.  They aren't draining you of your life.  It won't kill you, they do intensive screening prior to the donation, to ensure that you are in good health so that A) you aren't a liability to the potential receiver of the blood, and B) that you aren't going to be sick afterwards.  I've been turned away before because I had recently gotten over a cold, and my honesty ensured another's survival.

DarkBlade325

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Quote from: Scotty on January 17, 2010, 11:57:29 PM
Anyone who says they don't want to donate because of the fear of a (record-proving) lifesaving organization (aka Red Cross) is a moron.  Sure, there may be a mistake made, but do you REALLY think the red cross wants that on their record?  Do you REALLY think that some lazy bastard is going to cost himself and his company their reputation.  That excuse is a cop-out.

Like Jake said, you clearly have no concept of how donating blood has saved lives.  If someone I know needs it, or even a complete random stranger who is thankful to me (without even knowing me) for saving his life through a blood transfusion, I will give it.  The thought that you could get a disease through a sterile needle is ridiculous and stupid.

The Red Cross strives to be the driving force behind saving lives.  I'll take their word over some immature rumor some people spread to try and cause a disruption.  There's a reason that Geneva convention rules state that red cross is not to be harmed during periods of war.  They are there to save lives, not take them.

To anyone who has considered donating, and is impartial because of Torch's un-educated accusation, do a study and try to find irrefutable evidence that states that there is SOLID proof that donating blood has a good chance of you contracting a disease or any sort of ailment.


Regarding the other problems such as dizziness, dude, get over it.  Of course you are losing blood, and there are some MINOR draw-backs but they ensure that you are safe before they let you go.  They aren't draining you of your life.  It won't kill you, they do intensive screening prior to the donation, to ensure that you are in good health so that A) you aren't a liability to the potential receiver of the blood, and B) that you aren't going to be sick afterwards.  I've been turned away before because I had recently gotten over a cold, and my honesty ensured another's survival.

Congratulations, Scotty. You just made the world record of nearly perfectly matching my opinion word-2-word were I to post earlier.

I don't need to say anymore, do I? But I will say this. Torch you said you wanted to be paid for donating? Okay here's your payment. You'll be saving someone's life, how's that for payment?

DarkTrinity

Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
I would rethink your choice to donate blood. Donating blood can cause blood disease and (obviously) blood deficiency.

If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Go donate sperm if you want to be paid for donating bodily fluids.

Torch

@Scotty: The risk of contracting a disease is low, but that doesn't mean there isn't a risk. Nothing that I said in my previous post was incorrect, so I don't think it's fair to say that I'm uneducated. There are negative side effects to donating blood and they should at least be considered before doing so.

@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.

@DT: I wasn't trolling, I was voicing my stance on donating blood. I think that blood has value and it's worth selling as opposed to giving away for free.

Snakeman

Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@Scotty: The risk of contracting a disease is low, but that doesn't mean there isn't a risk. Nothing that I said in my previous post was incorrect, so I don't think it's fair to say that I'm uneducated. There are negative side effects to donating blood and they should at least be considered before doing so.

@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.

@DT: I wasn't trolling, I was voicing my stance on donating blood. I think that blood has value and it's worth selling as opposed to giving away for free.

I'll keep that in mind the next time somebody accidentally cuts me.

"HEY FAG, COME BACK HERE, YOU GOTTA PAY FOR THAT!"

Scotty

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Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@Scotty: The risk of contracting a disease is low, but that doesn't mean there isn't a risk. Nothing that I said in my previous post was incorrect, so I don't think it's fair to say that I'm uneducated. There are negative side effects to donating blood and they should at least be considered before doing so.

Yes, there is a chance, but with your lack of proper wording, you failed to note that I have a bigger chance of passing a kidney stone in my undies on the way home from work, resulting in me driving off a cliff in my brand new challenger killing myself.  Can you contract a disease while donating blood?  Yes, but you can also get struck by lightning, or mauled by a lion in downtown Los Angeles, or punch a sea lion and get mauled for it.  All those, I have a much larger chance of doing than contracting a disease during a blood donation.

To sit there and attempt to strike paranoia into people's hearts because of such an EXTREME low-risk, that's immature.

EDIT: Also, if you want your monetary value, I believe there are American states that will actually pay you for plasma.  So, unless Canada does it, they suck.  Move to America.

DarkBlade325

Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.
...Wait what? You either contradicted yourself, or you mis-read what I ment.

Lingus

Quote from: DarkBlade325 on January 19, 2010, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.
...Wait what? You either contradicted yourself, or you mis-read what I ment.
Actually, it seems like you're misreading. He wants to be paid. You're saying the payment for giving blood is saving a life. In his eyes, potentially saving a life is the service that he wants to be paid for.

Scotty

Quote from: Lingus on January 19, 2010, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on January 19, 2010, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: Torch on January 18, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
@DarkBlade: Life saving is a service, not a payment.
Quote from: Torch on January 17, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
If blood is a valuable medicine at cost for someone to donate, it should have monetary value. I would like to be paid for my blood.
...Wait what? You either contradicted yourself, or you mis-read what I ment.
Actually, it seems like you're misreading. He wants to be paid. You're saying the payment for giving blood is saving a life. In his eyes, potentially saving a life is the service that he wants to be paid for.

/applaud

Lingus

Haha thanks. Btw, I should point out I don't necessarily agree with Torch's view. I just understood what he was saying. It makes sense to a certain degree... it's just kind of selfish. It's fine for him to think that way. Donating should be done voluntarily, and if you truly don't feel generous, then you shouldn't do it. If you feel like you should be given compensation for your services, then don't do it unless they are offering compensation. That doesn't mean other people aren't going to continue to donate.

TANK

you have to take into account that the person you donate blood to might be a mass murderer

Torch

Quote from: TANK on January 19, 2010, 10:26:08 PM
you have to take into account that the person you donate blood to might be a mass murderer
Logic at its finest.  :D

LeGuy

Hey, props to you, man. I always admire someone who'll go out of their way to help others. I have no experience with the matter whatsoever, so I doubt I'll be of any assistance, but I tip my hat to you in respect.

(Tip.)
Whee!

DarkTrinity

@Torch: You can get paid for donating plasma. Go have at it.

DarkBlade325

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I gotta admit, it does raise some questions of blood was actually worth something. I wonder how many emos would be living in mansions right now.

Psst, hey you, I have nothing against emos, don't go ape shit.

Hell I'd expect to see blood pack thefts all around hospitals.

@Lingus yeah I kinda picked up on that...But wait... It still doesn't make sense! He wants to be paid for saving lives? How in the deepest layer of Hell does that work? Do you have no pride? Look, yeah the Earth is revolving around money right now, but come on, if being a life saver isn't payment enough, I don't know what is. Tell you what, if you're not satisfied you get a free piece of pie for every donation.

Christ I can only imagine if everyone wanted to be paid for dona- no wait, SELLING their blood. If there ever happens to be a way to sell your blood, you should be able to sell your piss. I mean Hell, it makes about as much sense give or take the fact blood donations are keeping people alive.