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Quote from: Trogdor on December 17, 2009, 01:18:01 AM

Quote from: DivineLegend on December 17, 2009, 12:54:00 AM
if you have noticed, most predators have their eyes on the front of their head, take lions, tigers, HUMANS, bears, wolves (few exceptions like predatorial fish (sharks)), and that most prey have their eyes on the sides of their heads, like birds, squirrels, gophers, dear, mice, small fish, shrimp, (with other few exceptions like ostriges or however it is spelt), nature made us this way

We also have molars for grinding plant cellulose, a sorry excuse for "claws", a much longer digestive track, and we greatly lack in strength and agility when compared to other predators. The only reason we are able to be a predator is through the use of tools to aid us. The most we could kill and eat with our bare hands are insects and other small creatures, such as lizards.

Also, we are the only predator that acts like a scavenger after we kill our meat. When a gazelle is killed by a lion, it's flesh is still flushed with oxygen-rich blood, providing the cells with the necessary component to continue its life processes, such as cellular respiration, if only for a very short while. We on the other hand cook our meat, killing it in the process, and then consume it. A predator prefers fresh meat to dead. We prefer dead meat to fresh.

This is not to say that we're not omnivores. We are able to live off of meat, probably due to the ice age humanity experienced, and had to adapt to a new eating lifestyle as many vegetation had died. We have the best of both worlds, in other words.

thus is true as well, but our minds is what makes us a predator, a lion will use its speed and strength, a bear just uses his jaws as he catches salmon coming up a river, we use the guns that we  invented using our minds. if you look at other apes though, they have the molars for grinding plants, but some eat meat as well.
and if we really wanted to, we could also eat meat raw. It would have had to been a choice back when fire was discovered to keep eating meat raw to keep up our immunity systems to what could be drawn into our bodies during the process of eating raw meat, but would could if we really wanted to. Hell, i could start eating raw meat right now and eventually be able to eat it all the time. But due to personal (humans, not just me) taste, we prefer to eat our meat cooked

Quote from: DivineLegend on December 17, 2009, 11:21:43 AM
thus is true as well, but our minds is what makes us a predator, a lion will use its speed and strength, a bear just uses his jaws as he catches salmon coming up a river, we use the guns that we  invented using our minds. if you look at other apes though, they have the molars for grinding plants, but some eat meat as well.
and if we really wanted to, we could also eat meat raw. It would have had to been a choice back when fire was discovered to keep eating meat raw to keep up our immunity systems to what could be drawn into our bodies during the process of eating raw meat, but would could if we really wanted to. Hell, i could start eating raw meat right now and eventually be able to eat it all the time. But due to personal (humans, not just me) taste, we prefer to eat our meat cooked

You do have a point there, however I disagree with you on eating meat raw. Many people can get food poisoning simply from meat being undercooked, let alone raw. The reason for this is that our stomach acid's pH level is slightly more alkaline than other predators. This slight alkalinity is just enough to prevent some parasites and bacteria found in the meat from dying, and as a result we become sick. It would take many more years of evolution to once again eat our meat raw.

Quote from: Trogdor on December 17, 2009, 11:38:27 AM

Quote from: DivineLegend on December 17, 2009, 11:21:43 AM
thus is true as well, but our minds is what makes us a predator, a lion will use its speed and strength, a bear just uses his jaws as he catches salmon coming up a river, we use the guns that we  invented using our minds. if you look at other apes though, they have the molars for grinding plants, but some eat meat as well.
and if we really wanted to, we could also eat meat raw. It would have had to been a choice back when fire was discovered to keep eating meat raw to keep up our immunity systems to what could be drawn into our bodies during the process of eating raw meat, but would could if we really wanted to. Hell, i could start eating raw meat right now and eventually be able to eat it all the time. But due to personal (humans, not just me) taste, we prefer to eat our meat cooked

You do have a point there, however I disagree with you on eating meat raw. Many people can get food poisoning simply from meat being undercooked, let alone raw. The reason for this is that our stomach acid's pH level is slightly more alkaline than other predators. This slight alkalinity is just enough to prevent some parasites and bacteria found in the meat from dying, and as a result we become sick. It would take many more years of evolution to once again eat our meat raw.

true, but if some little kid were to start eating raw meat, i believe he/she would be able to eat raw meat their whole life... IDK since it hasn't been tested, and it is something i don't plan on testing on someone, but i think with a little time, someone could eat raw meat. given they start with only a little bit of meat at first, not eating a whole meal of it, 3 meals a day

Quote from: DivineLegend on December 17, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
true, but if some little kid were to start eating raw meat, i believe he/she would be able to eat raw meat their whole life... IDK since it hasn't been tested, and it is something i don't plan on testing on someone, but i think with a little time, someone could eat raw meat. given they start with only a little bit of meat at first, not eating a whole meal of it, 3 meals a day

I agree with you, but to a certain extent. The child's body may be more adapted to eating raw meat than another human, but he will still be subject to many of the negative consequences derived from eating meat raw.

Evolution is the result of slight mutations in the DNA of a living being, and these slight mutations can either be something that aids them or hinders them in their survival on this planet. The ones that carry a crippling genetic mutation have a decreased chance of living long enough to pass on their genetic trait to future offspring, while the ones possessing a beneficial mutation have an increased chance of passing on that trait. This natural selection is what helps animals adapt to their environment.

This situation can be applied to your hypothetical child. Through natural selection, he will be better adapted to eating raw meat because of the many generations of his ancestors doing the same. He will be the product of failed mutations (such as dull, flat teeth) that did not make it into his DNA, and successful mutations (such as a lower pH stomach acidity) that have been strengthened over time.

Quote from: DarkBlade325 on December 17, 2009, 02:50:20 AM
Oh come on Scotty, you really think this conversation was going to stay mature? Nonsense! A dick comment must be placed here and now.

Alright yeah, my apologies. Sides', I'm sure Lingus can handle one little douche comment...Or any other douche comment that I posted past page number 1 on this thread.

Meh... I'll get over it.

Wow just saw that vid, pretty damn sick...didn't read the entire thread cuz I'm in a rush, so I don't know if it has been said already, it's not german, sounds something like swedish or dutch... can't tell for sure... And yea good the dog survived!

Pfft. Racist.

I think this whole topic can be concluded by saying: If you are going to throw something off a 50 foot bridge, make sure it is Canadian.

Good day to you, folks.

Quote from: foG on December 17, 2009, 03:20:56 PM
Wow just saw that vid, pretty damn sick...didn't read the entire thread cuz I'm in a rush, so I don't know if it has been said already, it's not german, sounds something like swedish or dutch... can't tell for sure... And yea good the dog survived!

I'm going to assume he speaked Lithuanian... being as that's where the guy was from...

Quote from: Mr Pwnage on December 17, 2009, 04:10:15 PM
I think this whole topic can be concluded by saying: If you are going to throw something off a 50 foot bridge, make sure it is Canadian.

Good day to you, folks.

I will have to watch myself.

what a way to throw a dog off of a bridge but ive seen better. 7/10

Quote from: runeskap master117 on December 17, 2009, 08:18:13 PM
what a way to throw a dog off of a bridge but ive seen better. 7/10

No.

Quote from: EpicPhailure on December 17, 2009, 08:30:35 PM

Quote from: runeskap master117 on December 17, 2009, 08:18:13 PM
what a way to throw a dog off of a bridge but ive seen better. 7/10

No.

what you think it deserves an 8? maybe if he did a flip or two but i didnt see any flips

Troll elsewhere.

im just joking  8)