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Started by ARTgames, January 27, 2010, 05:35:01 PM

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Delicious

Ipad? More like over-sized Ipod touch.  ::)
They look fairly interesting though.
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Lingus

Quote from: ARTgames on January 31, 2010, 03:25:38 PM
QuoteIt's definitely too soon to say whether this is a success or failure. And you definitely can't just look at the device itself to make that judgement.

Like how the ipod had i tunes and iphon had apps this has books. Im not sure how that going to go.

They say it could make cool magazines because you will be able to add multimedia to it. Buts how is that different from something a website can do?
Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on January 31, 2010, 09:07:02 PM
iThink (pun intended) they should re-name it iReader. With all the possible mispellings and what not, things are bound to go wrong. Besides with the oh-so familiar "iPod", "iPad" feels kind of hard on the eyes.
Yea, but it does a lot more than just the "reader" features. That's just one of its applications.
Quote from: stick d00d on January 31, 2010, 09:47:36 PM
I agree whenever I see iPad I immediately think it says iPod. Plus I don't think I'd ever buy one of these, I'd rather have a iPhone or iTouch. Seems like a way to make more money off a product that is not very different and is less compact.
Quote from: Delicious on January 31, 2010, 11:29:24 PM
Ipad? More like over-sized Ipod touch.  ::)
They look fairly interesting though.

While funny, I think the argument that this is just an oversized iphone or ipod touch is kind of ridiculous. Yes, you can do the same things, but who would want to watch a movie on such a small screen? Or browse the web? Yes, it's possible, but it's much more convenient to have a bigger screen. And I think what is being missed is that this will be a device that people carry around like a laptop... not a phone. And this is more compact than even a netbook. You have to compare apples to apples... (btw, I just realized the pun there. sorry)

ARTgames

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Quote from: Lingus on February 01, 2010, 01:40:43 AM
Quote from: ARTgames on January 31, 2010, 03:25:38 PM
QuoteIt's definitely too soon to say whether this is a success or failure. And you definitely can't just look at the device itself to make that judgement.

Like how the ipod had i tunes and iphon had apps this has books. Im not sure how that going to go.

They say it could make cool magazines because you will be able to add multimedia to it. Buts how is that different from something a website can do?
Quote from: NotoriousM4^ on January 31, 2010, 09:07:02 PM
iThink (pun intended) they should re-name it iReader. With all the possible mispellings and what not, things are bound to go wrong. Besides with the oh-so familiar "iPod", "iPad" feels kind of hard on the eyes.
Yea, but it does a lot more than just the "reader" features. That's just one of its applications.
Your missing my point. The main thing that's supposed to separated it from the other products apple has is that it has a bigger screen for books. If it does as much as a webpage can do in that respect today than how does that separate it?

what can it do that a cheaper netbook cant? I will argue a netbook is a lot better deal for a normal consumer.

Scotty

I would actually argue the opposite.  Netbooks are exclusively for surfing the interwebz, and instant messaging.  Doing much more than that could be problematic, as the netbook lacks the resources.

It is well proven that the iPhone has a TREMENDOUS amount of apps, games, tools, etc... that you can download and install.  Ones that many would be hard pressed to get on a netbook (with the level of ease).  It's already well established, slap a mac sticker, and you got yourself a winner!

ARTgames

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 who is getting one of these when they can? just wondering.

JoEL

Quote from: ARTgames on February 01, 2010, 06:42:12 PM
who is getting one of these when they can? just wondering.

I plan to get one at some point...but I may wait a while to see how other people like it. Knowing apple, they'll release a better one in 6-12 months.

NotoriousM4^

Quote from: JoEL on February 02, 2010, 01:18:04 AM
Quote from: ARTgames on February 01, 2010, 06:42:12 PM
who is getting one of these when they can? just wondering.

I plan to get one at some point...but I may wait a while to see how other people like it. Knowing apple, they'll release a better one in 6-12 months.
Ditto.

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Mr Pwnage

Newspaper companies hate this apparently. A lot think that this will make newspapers extinct...to whom I say...HAHAHAHAHAH never. Su-Do-Ku and reading the sports section is only proper on fresh, recycled, shitty paper.
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ARTgames

i dont see why. news papers will be on it and they dont need to buy ink print paper and ship it with trucks.

Scotty

Unless newspaper companies migrate to using apps for the iPad, it won't happen.

A lot of news you will read in a newspaper is local news, where the heavy hitting inter-/national news on it as well.  If you cut out newspapers, local news goes down the drain.  It isn't like CNN is gonna waste their time reporting every time gramma yokum's cat crawled into the tree and was saved by the local fire department, but that's perfect material for a smaller new corporation to put into a newspaper.

Meiun

#86
Ok, so while I am primarily a Windows user, I have no problem admitting that Apple definitely does and can make some great stuff, especially in regards to the whole iPod, iPhone, lines. But after reading a couple articles about their development plans on things, I have to say that Steve Jobs strikes me as a HUGE arrogant and cocky douche. Apparently he refuses to give the iPad support for Flash, despite Adobe (the company that makes it) wanting to be able to put it on there. So in other words, a HUGE portion of the internet and potential video sources will be completely unavailable to iPad users simply because Steve Jobs "doesn't like it." After bashing Adobe some he stated that "the internet is all moving to HTML5" which wont need Flash anymore (which is being developed largely by some apple people, surprise surprise). Which in my book, even if this were true is no excuse for shunning a tremendous portion of the internet in the mean time. He did the exact same thing when it came to adding support for Java, to which he stated that "nobody uses it anymore," which even the sites that posted the article of him saying that agreed was a blatant lie.

Lingus

I have another item on the "ereader" issue (this time on the opposite side of what I've been saying). So apparently publishers are pissed at Amazon (who makes the Kindle which is the largest ereader at the moment) for selling ebooks at lower than standard prices. The publishers want to force Amazon to sell books at higher prices, or they will withhold the books until much later than they would sell them to retailers. Their argument is that it devalues their product (the books they are selling). Which is kind of true to a certain extent. If you can buy the book on Kindle for $9.99, why would you spend an extra 3+ dollars for a physical copy? Some people prefer paper books, and these people would certainly spend the extra money for it, but overall more people will buy the cheaper digital copy. Of course, the difference is that with ebooks you can sell as many copies with no extra printing costs. So that has to be factored in there somewhere (I'm no expert in the field so I wouldn't know how that effects the matter). In any case, it is what it is.

Now, along comes Apple and says, "Hey, I'll sell ebooks at higher prices." Soooo... where does that leave the consumer? We were all set to have a revolution in the way books are sold. Digital distribution would become more widespread and inexpensive, while more costly paper copies of novels would likely never go out of fashion. We would have the best of both worlds. The cheap, convenient option, and the more costly, but familiar option. Now it seems there is no precedence for digital books to be any cheaper than the print versions. If Apple is going to sell them at the same price, then everyone will have to. You either fall in line, or the publishers won't sell you the copies.

So, thanks to Apple, competition in the market has done exactly the opposite of what it should for consumers.

Meiun

I don't foresee the iPad beating the Kindle as an eReader. I am pretty sure (and it has already been speculated by many) that the screen on it would be too strenuous on the eyes over long periods for a really practical reading device. The kindle screen is indeed pretty easy on the eyes, so based on what little I know on it I can at least get an idea of where they are coming from.

ARTgames

Quote from: Scotty on February 03, 2010, 12:19:14 AM
Unless newspaper companies migrate to using apps for the iPad, it won't happen.

A lot of news you will read in a newspaper is local news, where the heavy hitting inter-/national news on it as well.  If you cut out newspapers, local news goes down the drain.  It isn't like CNN is gonna waste their time reporting every time gramma yokum's cat crawled into the tree and was saved by the local fire department, but that's perfect material for a smaller new corporation to put into a newspaper.
whats keeping them from moving online age? I did not see it in your post.