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Quote from: Mr Pwnage on May 25, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
Lost was actually based on both the book "Lord of the Flys" and the TV show "Survivor". I never actually watched it though.

Uhhh, that couldn't possibly be farther from the truth. If it were possible for it to share negative similarity with either of those, I'd say that. The main premises of the show really arn't even about just "being on an island" or being Lost at allllll, or even much about how they deal with one another. So, no, just no.

Sooo, reading the article is kinda a spoiler, but as I don't have any recent plans to sit down and watch all the seasons of the show and some of you have seen them all I have a question....

!SPOILER ALERT!
So everybody on the island dies in the end...? Is that correct?

Quote from: DarkTrinity on May 26, 2010, 03:30:47 PM
Sooo, reading the article is kinda a spoiler, but as I don't have any recent plans to sit down and watch all the seasons of the show and some of you have seen them all I have a question....

!SPOILER ALERT!
So everybody on the island dies in the end...? Is that correct?

Actually as far as I can tell by the article, alot of people dont die and on the island they all find happiness and that kinda shizzle.
OFF the island however, in the versions of themselves that never crashed, they lead sad little lives.
Yeah Spoiler ^^^^^

Quote from: Meiun on May 25, 2010, 09:22:43 PM

Quote from: Mr Pwnage on May 25, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
Lost was actually based on both the book "Lord of the Flys" and the TV show "Survivor". I never actually watched it though.

Uhhh, that couldn't possibly be farther from the truth. If it were possible for it to share negative similarity with either of those, I'd say that. The main premises of the show really arn't even about just "being on an island" or being Lost at allllll, or even much about how they deal with one another. So, no, just no.

...  Ahem:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_%28TV_series%29#ConceptionThe series began development in January 2004, when Lloyd Braun, head of ABC at the time, ordered an initial script from Spelling Television based on his concept of a cross between the novel Lord of the Flies, the movie Cast Away, the television series Gilligan's Island, and the popular reality show Survivor

YOU'RE ALL WRONG!  Not based on, based on a concept. (Point for me!  Woohoo!)

Ahahahahahahahaha, I love cracked.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-to-really-survive-being-stranded-on-a-deserted-island/

Quote from: Scotty on May 26, 2010, 06:06:39 PM

Quote from: Meiun on May 25, 2010, 09:22:43 PM

Quote from: Mr Pwnage on May 25, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
Lost was actually based on both the book "Lord of the Flys" and the TV show "Survivor". I never actually watched it though.

Uhhh, that couldn't possibly be farther from the truth. If it were possible for it to share negative similarity with either of those, I'd say that. The main premises of the show really arn't even about just "being on an island" or being Lost at allllll, or even much about how they deal with one another. So, no, just no.

...  Ahem:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_%28TV_series%29#ConceptionThe series began development in January 2004, when Lloyd Braun, head of ABC at the time, ordered an initial script from Spelling Television based on his concept of a cross between the novel Lord of the Flies, the movie Cast Away, the television series Gilligan's Island, and the popular reality show Survivor

YOU'RE ALL WRONG!  Not based on, based on a concept. (Point for me!  Woohoo!)

Still has absolutely nothing to do with either in the slightest way shape or form. Like I said, being Lost on an island isn't even really the main theme when it comes to the plot.

Quote from: Meiun on May 26, 2010, 11:13:16 PM

Quote from: Scotty on May 26, 2010, 06:06:39 PM

Quote from: Meiun on May 25, 2010, 09:22:43 PM

Quote from: Mr Pwnage on May 25, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
Lost was actually based on both the book "Lord of the Flys" and the TV show "Survivor". I never actually watched it though.

Uhhh, that couldn't possibly be farther from the truth. If it were possible for it to share negative similarity with either of those, I'd say that. The main premises of the show really arn't even about just "being on an island" or being Lost at allllll, or even much about how they deal with one another. So, no, just no.

...  Ahem:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_%28TV_series%29#ConceptionThe series began development in January 2004, when Lloyd Braun, head of ABC at the time, ordered an initial script from Spelling Television based on his concept of a cross between the novel Lord of the Flies, the movie Cast Away, the television series Gilligan's Island, and the popular reality show Survivor

YOU'RE ALL WRONG!  Not based on, based on a concept. (Point for me!  Woohoo!)

Still has absolutely nothing to do with either in the slightest way shape or form. Like I said, being Lost on an island isn't even really the main theme when it comes to the plot.

Never said it had to be similar, just based on concepts, take one concept from each even, and then make up the rest as you go.  God knows J.J. Abrams can take something awesome, put it on TV, then proceed to beat it to a bloody pulp.  Seriously, he's gone so far with it, they might as well just make a genre called "Time Travel", it'll sit somewhere between a drama and comedy.

Come to think of it, if you took all of those shows, and blended them into one... You'd have quite possibly one of the most complex and difficult to follow shows imaginable... Oh wait...

Quote from: Meiun on May 26, 2010, 11:13:16 PM

Quote from: Scotty on May 26, 2010, 06:06:39 PM

Quote from: Meiun on May 25, 2010, 09:22:43 PM

Quote from: Mr Pwnage on May 25, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
Lost was actually based on both the book "Lord of the Flys" and the TV show "Survivor". I never actually watched it though.

Uhhh, that couldn't possibly be farther from the truth. If it were possible for it to share negative similarity with either of those, I'd say that. The main premises of the show really arn't even about just "being on an island" or being Lost at allllll, or even much about how they deal with one another. So, no, just no.

...  Ahem:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_%28TV_series%29#ConceptionThe series began development in January 2004, when Lloyd Braun, head of ABC at the time, ordered an initial script from Spelling Television based on his concept of a cross between the novel Lord of the Flies, the movie Cast Away, the television series Gilligan's Island, and the popular reality show Survivor

YOU'RE ALL WRONG!  Not based on, based on a concept. (Point for me!  Woohoo!)

Still has absolutely nothing to do with either in the slightest way shape or form. Like I said, being Lost on an island isn't even really the main theme when it comes to the plot.

I think you're exaggerating a bit Meiun. They clearly have at least a little bit of something to do with eachother. Given, maybe not the theme of the show, but you can't disregard the fact that in all of those examples they are stuck on an island. That's a basic concept. And that is not absolutely nothing in even the slightest way shape or form.

Inspiration comes from many different places. You can take elements from certain things and include it in your work. Then you obviously have to make it your own. Which was clearly done here. None of those other examples have as much complexity or crazy shadow monsters or what have you.

Btw, speaking of JJ Abrams, what does anyone think of Fringe? Are the Lost fans just fans of the show, or do you enjoy Abrams' other work as well? I'm personally a huge fan of Fringe. Talk about complexity and depth. If you are into science fiction at all, you would definitely like it.

I enjoyed the first season of Fringe thoroughly, but never got around to starting the second when it came out. From what I hear from my sister, the plots pretty damn insane, haha. I'll have to continue it sometime.

You need to watch the show to know what I'm referring to. At least half the scenes in the show don't even take place on the island at all, in addition to the fact that while "the island" does play a very important role in it, based on what the underlying themes and plots are it very well could have been a place other than an island, as well as a lot of the twists, themes, and plot elements not being directly (or in many cases nearly at all) based around them being on a tropical island. Gilligans Island and Survivor that is the entire point of the show, Lost it isn't. As well as them being a comedy and a reality show, which Lost isn't either of. Yes, I was ex agerating a bit, was just trying to emphasize that is not the type of thing you can so loosely generalize.

Quote from: Meiun on May 27, 2010, 02:17:05 PM
You need to watch the show to know what I'm referring to. At least half the scenes in the show don't even take place on the island at all, in addition to the fact that while "the island" does play a very important role in it, based on what the underlying themes and plots are it very well could have been a place other than an island, as well as a lot of the twists, themes, and plot elements not being directly (or in many cases nearly at all) based around them being on a tropical island. Gilligans Island and Survivor that is the entire point of the show, Lost it isn't. As well as them being a comedy and a reality show, which Lost isn't either of. Yes, I was ex agerating a bit, was just trying to emphasize that is not the type of thing you can so loosely generalize.

Understood. Thought I don't think anyone was trying to generalize. As Scott posted, it is something the creator of the show has clearly admitted to that Lost is at least based somehow on the other shows mentioned. But I get what you're saying. They have very little in common other than some minor elements.

Quote from: Lucifer on May 27, 2010, 01:54:53 PM
I enjoyed the first season of Fringe thoroughly, but never got around to starting the second when it came out. From what I hear from my sister, the plots pretty damn insane, haha. I'll have to continue it sometime.

Definitely. This season was mind blowing.

Quote from: Lucifer on May 27, 2010, 01:54:53 PM
I enjoyed the first season of Fringe thoroughly, but never got around to starting the second when it came out. From what I hear from my sister, the plots pretty damn insane, haha. I'll have to continue it sometime.

Haha, I was the same way! I watched the first season and just never got around to watching the second season... I think I had night classes on the day it was on or something...

The finale of Lost was a big let down. Boring, lame, and hardly worth the time I spent watching it.

Quote from: Seifer on May 29, 2010, 10:19:50 PM
The finale of Lost was a big let down. Boring, lame, and hardly worth the time I spent watching it.

I disagree, but your entitled to your opinion ofcourse. The creators said ahead of time that people were either going to absolutely love it, or hate it.

Lmfao.
One last thing.
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