foG's Sand Sword.

[Snakeman]

There is something that bothers me, regarding foG's Sand Sword, and the fact that the Sand Sword is also a droppable item. I thoroughly believe that, due to the fact that he had won a tourney, his item should be exclusive. Simple as that. This, however, is a not the case, and I have a viable solution to this.

I'd like to have the treatment of Seifer's custom Gunblade done to foG's Sand Sword. For those who don't know, the Gunblade/Slasher was going to be Seifer's mod weapon. However, as we all know, this is an item that anybody can obtain. However, in order to retain the original uniqueness of Seifer's weapon being exclusive for himself only, it was buffed so that it is a better weapon than the ordinary Slasher that one can obtain.

I believe the same should be done in terms of foG's Sand Sword. I don't believe that the Sand Sword should be removed from available drops, and a few have already gotten the weapon. Taking it out would be a kick in the teeth to them too. But having the tourney prize that foG has earned rightly so shouldn't also be easily aquired by the luck of a Sand Golem kill.

So, summing it up, foG's Sand Sword should be like every other Sand Sword, but should be it's own exclusive item and have some buffs added to it (more damage, less stam usage, etc) that sets it aside from the obtainable Sand Sword and makes it more like a prize than merely a shortcut/convenience.

[igufed]

That'd be fine if he knew it would be a unique weapon from the start..

In the tournament description he won that in, it said the prize was a new weapon.. It said something about rare or hard to get or preview of what to expect in v3 weapon. SOMETHING along those lines..

It no where said it was going to be unique to the winner.

[Snakeman]

That'd be fine if he knew it would be a unique weapon from the start..

In the tournament description he won that in, it said the prize was a new weapon.. It said something about rare or hard to get or preview of what to expect in v3 weapon. SOMETHING along those lines..

It no where said it was going to be unique to the winner.

Y'know, I was worried that was the case, but either way, I still believe it should be something that he has for himself for going through the feat. Besting EVERYBODY on the game (who attends for the most part) is a much more difficult feat than defeating a Sand Golem. Again, a prize, not a shortcut.

[Mystery]

That'd be fine if he knew it would be a unique weapon from the start..

In the tournament description he won that in, it said the prize was a new weapon.. It said something about rare or hard to get or preview of what to expect in v3 weapon. SOMETHING along those lines..

It no where said it was going to be unique to the winner.

...You should also consider then that the same has been done for nearly every other tourney, as in 'possible new item' that resulted in foG's Guardian Helm. But that's exclusive. It was also done for the last tourney, where it was stated that the winner(Lucifer) would get a 'ghoulish new weapon'. But I guarantee you that will be exclusive too.

Personally, since there seems to be a trend here, I want Flame Gauntlet to be droppable from BBB, and (since Ludacris isn't 100% gone)a boost for Luda's version of it.

[Jiggy]

I agree with Snake. Tourny prizes should be unique for the winner in some way. A LSB drop shouldn't be identical to the one that was awarded as a tourny prize. Even a re-colorization of foG's wep would suffice.

[igufed]

I say read the fine print. If there is no fine print, read the entire post.  If you don't understand something or want clarification, ask questions.

As for making fog's stand out from the droppable version.. My thought is no.  If past tournaments resulted in an exclusive item, great.  If future ones will as well, awesome.  This one said it wasn't going to be from the start.  You knew what you were going to get if you won.

[Jiggy]

This one said it wasn't going to be from the start.  You knew what you were going to get if you won.

That is true. However, the first couple of Chaos tournys didn't have crowns as prizes yet Turkey still recieved one in the future. Prizes have been and can be awarded in the future.

[Danimal]

I am torn between the two sides on this..

foG was never cheated, he was never promised, or led to believe that it was a unique item. He was given the rarest and most powerful weapon in the game (available to players) as a reward for winning my official tournament. These tournaments are NOT Chaos Tournies and they definitely shouldn't be treated as such. To state the obvious here, these are donor server tournies. It is my way of keeping activity, and providing the community to get as much competitive enjoyment out of the game as they can. The LSS is a powerful weapon there's no doubting that. In my own opinion, I feel that the LSS shouldn't be unique for foG because of this reason. It'd be unfair to give him a weapon advantage over other players. Especially making his one more beneficial than the one available to everyone else, which is already arguably the most powerful weapon in the game.

Personally, I do feel that winning an 'Official' tournament deserves some unique item to represent that victory. But as this is only the donor server, in addition with his unique Guardian Helmet he won as a 'crown', he isn't doing too badly.

[Celson]

The LSB is already powerful enough on it's own without giving foG any weapon buff for it. And foG is very talented. I mean come on, he won his first tournament with just a GS... Against all the IS, slasher and some SD players, he beat them anyway. And then come the 2nd offical tournament, he still won even after all the extra people that had obtained SD. And he very possibly could of won the 3rd tournament. If he had this 'weapon buff' you speak of, then he could of beaten DeamonClawz. And according to Lucifer, foG was still able to beat Lucifer in some instances at that time. And now that spire dagger has been softened up, foG is now better than ever. Do you really wanna risk giving him his 'weapon buff' and letting him win ANOTHER tournament?

I say just leave it be.

[Mystery]

I agree with Snake. Tourny prizes should be unique for the winner in some way. A LSB drop shouldn't be identical to the one that was awarded as a tourny prize. Even a re-colorization of foG's wep would suffice.

I feel like this would be an excellent compromise to not upset people of either side. Colorize the normal Sand Swords(and icon) to the color of the SG, but keep foG's yellow like the SF, and have his sword be the only one called Legendary Sand Sword.

[Titan]

It depends, for all we know Lucifer's new weapon also drops, because on the Halloween Tournament thread it simply says the winner recives a new weapon.
It mentions nothing about it being unqiue, and since it's one of Dan's tournys it makes sense.

I feel that this would also make it fair. Like Dan said, his tourney's aren't Chaos tourneys. If it becomes standard to give out rare weapons, that have an incredibly small chance of dropping, I think it's fair.

If however, FoGs's weapon is the only tournament item that drops currently and in the future, than it's pretty unfair.

[Prosper]

It could be a special +5 agi or +5int blade :P to fit his build.

[God-I-Suck]

Ya know, I don't see why this is such a big deal.. He won a damn nice weapon he should be thankful, and so what, his weapon isn't only unique to him.. Man who cares? I find this totally ridiculous.

[T-Rok]

Ya know, I don't see why this is such a big deal.. He won a damn nice weapon he should be thankful, and so what, his weapon isn't only unique to him.. Man who cares? I find this totally ridiculous.

Agreeing. He should be happy that he even got a prize.

[Matty_Richo]

I kind of agree here, but I also think that the same should be done with Luda's Weapon and Lucifer's Weapon, however the player obtainable versions should be slightly different, (e.g, Luda's weap could have a longer reuse time and Lucifer's weap could be reduced to only hitting 2 targets) that way, the tourney winners still have an advantage over the publically obtainable version.