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Group of kids throw a dog off a 50 foot bridge...

Started by Delicious, December 14, 2009, 11:06:29 PM

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DarkBlade325

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Quote from: Scotty on December 16, 2009, 02:27:34 PM
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on December 16, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: DarkTrinity on December 16, 2009, 11:11:08 AM
It is also a PETA video...

Every time I hear that word now, I laugh. Not because I hate them or anything like that. Glad they're protecting animals from cruelty and bringing it to the light every day..

But every time I hear that word, PETA, I always think of that ad picture they made that had a naked girl with the tag line "I'd rather go naked than wear fur." Smart move.

I hate PETA, and surprisingly, I have a similar mindset as them.  I think they are just a bunch of extremist idiots.  There's plenty of people fighting for animal rights, there's no need for an idiot organization to try and gain attention for their cause by slandering people and making open attacks.  We all know they are idiots, there's no need for you to stand there and say "HEY EVERYONE!  LOOK AT ME!"

Well, atleast they're trying. Also you gotta admit that ad poster of theirs was pretty clever to catch the eye. Actually I figured you would have atleast 5 copies of it, Scotty. Also to those who don't know what the hell I'm going on about, click this. May be not safe for work.

Actually, seems I havn't been paying too much attention to PETA. They've done tons of ads like this, as seen in the link above. Note to self: Do research next time.

DarkTrinity

Quote from: Scotty on December 16, 2009, 02:27:34 PM
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on December 16, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: DarkTrinity on December 16, 2009, 11:11:08 AM
It is also a PETA video...

Every time I hear that word now, I laugh. Not because I hate them or anything like that. Glad they're protecting animals from cruelty and bringing it to the light every day..

But every time I hear that word, PETA, I always think of that ad picture they made that had a naked girl with the tag line "I'd rather go naked than wear fur." Smart move.

I hate PETA, and surprisingly, I have a similar mindset as them.  I think they are just a bunch of extremist idiots.  There's plenty of people fighting for animal rights, there's no need for an idiot organization to try and gain attention for their cause by slandering people and making open attacks.  We all know they are idiots, there's no need for you to stand there and say "HEY EVERYONE!  LOOK AT ME!"

I agree, they are extreme, but I think the video I posted about the pigs shows a lot about what sometimes goes on. I believe that they don't even approve of eating products from animals either, such as eggs or milk. (correct me if I'm wrong about that)
When they get pissed at Obama for swatting at a fly, that's when you know they're attention whores....

Chaos

I laugh when I hear PETA, because they ARE just a bunch of attention whores.
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DarkBlade325

Quote from: Chaos on December 16, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
I laugh when I hear PETA, because they ARE just a bunch of attention whores.

Can't deny they're BAD at getting their attention. What with all their playboy models walking about.

ARTgames

Quote from: Chaos on December 16, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
I laugh when I hear PETA, because they ARE just a bunch of attention whores.

Hey now! my great ant was named peta and she was a hurment. Joking offcourse but it always seems like every beliefs have extremists.

DarkTrinity

Quote from: ARTgames on December 16, 2009, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Chaos on December 16, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
I laugh when I hear PETA, because they ARE just a bunch of attention whores.

Hey now! my great ant was named peta and she was a hurment. Joking offcourse but it always seems like every beliefs have extremists.

Of course.. gotta have wackos on every end of the spectrum... :/

Grim_Reaper

Quote from: Pat on December 16, 2009, 09:57:27 AM
Quote from: Grim_Reaper on December 16, 2009, 04:41:23 AM
Holy SH*T!
hope that dog gets its revenge!!
you can see the precise moment when the front right leg snaps on impact!*throws up abit*
i hate people who post shit like this (for people who posted them doing it and people posting it other places to make it more well known)
gees guys! if u see this sh*t, don't post it anywhere else. its disgusting. it makes u as bad as the people doing it.
so don't make other people watch it(i know ur gonna be like.... but i didn't force them too. yeah well peoples curiosity gets the better of them 9/10)

there thats my say
He can do what he wants. He posted it to tell people about this cruel act, nobody made you watch that video, or visit this topic. No he's not as bad as the people who did it! The people who did it threw a dog off a cliff whereas he made a topic showing his disgust. And why did you say 9/10? I hope you weren't rating the video.
No i wasn't rating the video. i was saying that just saying things like that will make people curiousity want to see that clip. and the 9/10 means 9times out of 10

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Scotty

Quote from: DarkBlade325 on December 16, 2009, 02:33:36 PM
Quote from: Scotty on December 16, 2009, 02:27:34 PM
Quote from: DarkBlade325 on December 16, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: DarkTrinity on December 16, 2009, 11:11:08 AM
It is also a PETA video...

Every time I hear that word now, I laugh. Not because I hate them or anything like that. Glad they're protecting animals from cruelty and bringing it to the light every day..

But every time I hear that word, PETA, I always think of that ad picture they made that had a naked girl with the tag line "I'd rather go naked than wear fur." Smart move.

I hate PETA, and surprisingly, I have a similar mindset as them.  I think they are just a bunch of extremist idiots.  There's plenty of people fighting for animal rights, there's no need for an idiot organization to try and gain attention for their cause by slandering people and making open attacks.  We all know they are idiots, there's no need for you to stand there and say "HEY EVERYONE!  LOOK AT ME!"

Well, atleast they're trying. Also you gotta admit that ad poster of theirs was pretty clever to catch the eye. Actually I figured you would have atleast 5 copies of it, Scotty. Also to those who don't know what the hell I'm going on about, click this. May be not safe for work.

Actually, seems I havn't been paying too much attention to PETA. They've done tons of ads like this, as seen in the link above. Note to self: Do research next time.

I've seen them, and I am not surprised they would do that.  PETA has a history of annoyances, and they are no different than extremist protesters who make us wonder who was stupid enough to allow free speech in the USA.  They harass everyone they can sink their teeth into, and go public with everything, over-exaggerating their points, and doing everything an extremist organization would do.  For instance:

Quote from: http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-petaonpets.aspWe at PETA very much love the animal companions who share our homes, but we believe that it would have been in the animals' best interests if the institution of "pet keeping"?i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as "pets"?never existed.

Quote from: http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-responsiblebreeders.aspMost people know to avoid puppy mills and "backyard" breeders. But many kind individuals fall prey to the picket-fence appeal of so-called "responsible" breeders and fail to recognize that no matter how kindly a breeder treats his or her animals, as long as dogs and cats are dying in animal shelters and pounds because of a lack of homes, no breeding can be considered "responsible."

Quote from: http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-feralcats.aspHaving witnessed the painful deaths of countless feral cats instead of seeing them drift quietly "to sleep" in their old age, we cannot in good conscience advocate trapping, altering, and releasing as a humane way to deal with overpopulation and homelessness.

Quote from: http://www.peta.org/feat-abc_campaign.aspThe only way to make our communities "no-kill" is to work toward a "no-birth" nation through legislative measures that mandate spaying or neutering unless a proper permit is purchased, with permit revenues used solely to subsidize sterilization surgeries for low-income families and citizens. For a list of jurisdictions that have passed such laws, please click here.

God knows I agree with a lot of their core values on how to help reduce problems that have arisen, but Dear Lord, could they not have made their points ANY more extreme.  They over-exaggerate so much to try and intimidate the world into believing them.  They are extremists, there is no other way to put it.

Now, there are plenty of parts about PETA that I absolutely DO NOT AGREE WITH.  For instance, the personal attacks they make on people to try and publicly demean them.  Some people do have bad practices, but to come out and over-exaggerate what they are doing to try and prove a point is ridiculous.  Seriously.  To an un-educated eye, it almost seems as those they are against animals, and would rather they die than get placed in good home.  They couldn't possibly be any better at taking a very valid point, then making it sound like complete shit.

Cactuscat222

@Lingus: Just because don't have to eat meat anymore to survive... why does that mean we shouldn't?
We like meat, we can eat it, so why should we all have to stop and move away from it? We need to eat to survive, and eating meat is a means to an end.

Is it because we are cruel to the animals, and therefore if we stopped eating meat, that cruelty will go away? How about we just deal with the cruelty, and continue to eat meat, like some of us want?


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Lingus

Quote from: Cactuscat222 on December 16, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
@Lingus: Just because don't have to eat meat anymore to survive... why does that mean we shouldn't?
We like meat, we can eat it, so why should we all have to stop and move away from it? We need to eat to survive, and eating meat is a means to an end.

Is it because we are cruel to the animals, and therefore if we stopped eating meat, that cruelty will go away? How about we just deal with the cruelty, and continue to eat meat, like some of us want?
How can you continue to eat meat, but discontinue being cruel to the animal... "Oh, it's okay animal, don't worry. I don't want to hurt you. I'm just going to eat you." I hope you see how contradictory that is. You can't kill an animal kindly. The act of killing them and then eating their body is cruel. I think it's fair to say expect people to treat the animals well while they are alive, and to kill them in the least painful way possible. But no matter how you look at it, you are depriving a living being of its life... and for what? So you can eat stuff you like to eat?

Cactuscat222

Quote from: Lingus on December 16, 2009, 07:01:58 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on December 16, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
@Lingus: Just because don't have to eat meat anymore to survive... why does that mean we shouldn't?
We like meat, we can eat it, so why should we all have to stop and move away from it? We need to eat to survive, and eating meat is a means to an end.

Is it because we are cruel to the animals, and therefore if we stopped eating meat, that cruelty will go away? How about we just deal with the cruelty, and continue to eat meat, like some of us want?
How can you continue to eat meat, but discontinue being cruel to the animal... "Oh, it's okay animal, don't worry. I don't want to hurt you. I'm just going to eat you." I hope you see how contradictory that is. You can't kill an animal kindly. The act of killing them and then eating their body is cruel. I think it's fair to say expect people to treat the animals well while they are alive, and to kill them in the least painful way possible. But no matter how you look at it, you are depriving a living being of its life... and for what? So you can eat stuff you like to eat?

Yes. I will eat it, because I like it, and because it ensures my continued survival. ALL ANIMALS THINK THIS WAY. Why should I have a qualm about killing an animal to eat it, when it would not share the same remorse for me, AT ALL?


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Jake

Quote from: Cactuscat222 on December 16, 2009, 07:15:28 PM
Quote from: Lingus on December 16, 2009, 07:01:58 PM
Quote from: Cactuscat222 on December 16, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
@Lingus: Just because don't have to eat meat anymore to survive... why does that mean we shouldn't?
We like meat, we can eat it, so why should we all have to stop and move away from it? We need to eat to survive, and eating meat is a means to an end.

Is it because we are cruel to the animals, and therefore if we stopped eating meat, that cruelty will go away? How about we just deal with the cruelty, and continue to eat meat, like some of us want?
How can you continue to eat meat, but discontinue being cruel to the animal... "Oh, it's okay animal, don't worry. I don't want to hurt you. I'm just going to eat you." I hope you see how contradictory that is. You can't kill an animal kindly. The act of killing them and then eating their body is cruel. I think it's fair to say expect people to treat the animals well while they are alive, and to kill them in the least painful way possible. But no matter how you look at it, you are depriving a living being of its life... and for what? So you can eat stuff you like to eat?

Yes. I will eat it, because I like it, and because it ensures my continued survival. ALL ANIMALS THINK THIS WAY. Why should I have a qualm about killing an animal to eat it, when it would not share the same remorse for me, AT ALL?
You don't need to eat meat to survive, many animals do.

Cactuscat222

I know I don't need to eat meat to survive. I've said/implied that tons of times by now, but everyone just keeps on telling me anyways.

Still, I need to eat something, so why not eat meat? I am a predator on the food chain, and meat is nutrient filled for me, so I will eat it.


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Trogdor

Quote from: Cactuscat222 on December 16, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
@Lingus: Just because don't have to eat meat anymore to survive... why does that mean we shouldn't?
We like meat, we can eat it, so why should we all have to stop and move away from it? We need to eat to survive, and eating meat is a means to an end.

The means (instilling fear and suffering in creatures) do not justify the end (full stomach and happy tastebuds). As human beings, we are endowed with the freedom of choice. We, in the most egotistical sense, choose whether an animal lives or dies. This choice is what distinguishes humans from other animals. We can choose to create peace or suffering with every meal.

Quote from: Cactuscat222 on December 16, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
How about we just deal with the cruelty, and continue to eat meat, like some of us want?

More often than not, the path of least resistance is easier to follow than others, but that does not always make it morally/ethically "right". I'm sure if animals could talk, they would want to live more than you would want to eat them. It amazes me the extent of human selfishness can reach to gratify one's desires.

Quote from: Cactuscat222 on December 16, 2009, 07:15:28 PM
Yes. I will eat it, because I like it, and because it ensures my continued survival. ALL ANIMALS THINK THIS WAY. Why should I have a qualm about killing an animal to eat it, when it would not share the same remorse for me, AT ALL?

Animals don't choose what/when/where they eat. Animals don't have the leisure to think "Hmm...I wonder what's in the fridge today?" or "I wonder if I'm more in the mood for Mexican food or Chinese takeout?". Humans are a very spoiled race, no doubt due to our intelligence of shaping and manipulating the environment around us to cater to our desires. We have the power to choose, the animal in question does not.

Ultimately, the decision on how you wish to dine is your own, Cactuscat, and whichever that may be, I'll respect.
If you give a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
If you light a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

Cactuscat222

#119
Why? Why do you consider me selfish for eating something that I can, and essentially need?

If an animal could talk, one that was about to eat me, I'm sure it wouldn't bother if I said I wanted to live more than it wanted to eat me. It wouldn't care.

I absolutely love animals, however, I need to eat to survive. Eating meat is one of those ways - the only reason you are telling me that I shouldn't eat meat is because it ends the animals life... that is how nature works! It happens around you on an everyday basis!

EDIT: "The means (instilling fear and suffering in creatures) do not justify the end (full stomach and happy tastebuds)." How is that not justified? Ultimately, I need to eat. I also prefer meat. So why not hit two birds with one stone? Yes - the animals may be grown and raised in a cruel and terrible way, one that I abhor, but I haven't much choice do I? Stopping my consumption of meat isn't so simple.

And aren't I to understand, Lingus, that you still eat meat? I mean, the majority of the people in this topic seem to be people who enjoy meat, yet I'm getting attacked because I'm ending an animal's life by eating it, but no one bothers with anyone else?


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